WHY IS FUNNELING MASTER YI STILL A THING

Bulaga·Feb 27, 2020·1 votes·2,336 views

i just don't understand why its okay to be in the game. someone tell why its healthy for the game and ill take a step back.

16 Comments

Power CosmicFeb 27, 20202 votes

I think it is cool when they are different ways to win, as long as there are ways to counter it and make it difficult.

ZackTheWaffleManFeb 27, 20202 votes

and therein lies the problem with funneling; the only way to counter it is by coordinating with your team to shut down the enemy early

Captain Pet RockFeb 27, 20201 votes

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and therein lies the problem with funneling; the only way to counter it is by coordinating with your team to shut down the enemy early

i mean you can shut it down with your midlane + jg depending on champ picks which i think is fine and unfortunately sometimes you wont have champs good at dealing with it as sometimes you have to pick first. but even then its a team game if you cant win that 2v2 try to pressure elsewhere while they are weaker.. if your team has 0 winning matchups im sorry for your loss. and i will repeat i think the strategy is fine but yi has his own issues

Power CosmicFeb 27, 20202 votes

Even though Riot has gone away from macro, if the game actually played like a team game, and strategy brought success than this would not be such a wild concept.

ZackTheWaffleManFeb 27, 20201 votes

agreed

in a perfect LoL, funneling would not be a toxic strategy... but this is not a perfect LoL

Captain Pet RockFeb 27, 20201 votes

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agreed

in a perfect LoL, funneling would not be a toxic strategy... but this is not a perfect LoL

i mean if we allow these strategies to thrive and push for additonal strategies as counters instead of removing anything that is different from the current meta strategy... perhaps the game would be more you know strategic.. i only believe in removing/nerfing super abusive things with no counters... and there is a difference between something that cant be countered and something that people refuse to counter

Power CosmicFeb 27, 20201 votes

Well if the goal is to have players strong with strategy to be good, they could design champs and balance the meta around that end. They have chosen to do something else.

TormentulaFeb 27, 20201 votes

Except this originated from pro player then became a duo boosting strat in solo queue. It became a little less effective for pro play, but in solo queue its still strong as ever.

Remember when kaisa braum and karthus nunu of all things was being played and won most of the time?

Captain Pet RockFeb 27, 20202 votes

because funneling is the most common strategy in the game... its called botlane the differences are it happens at midlane where you trade out a traditional midlaner like an assassin or mage for a support. Yi is a melee adc. just think about it 10-15 min into the game as a jg you usually give up your red buff to your adc sometimes blue as well if mid doesnt need it. thats funneling shit to your adc if possible you also try to give your adc kills.. and bot lane fiestas are to funnel your adc... stop them from funneling their adc and get drag

Jng AccountFeb 27, 20204 votes

Last time I checked, adc wasnt taking resourses from 2 lanes from the start of the match...

Learn the difference ppl, you are another dude I encountered on Boards who thinks that Yi/Taric is same thing as bot lane. No. Bot takes resourses of one lane(we can argue, that later, some jngle as well, but definitely not to the extent of Yi), while Yi/Taric funnel pushes resourses from 2 roles into Yi.

Captain Pet RockFeb 27, 20201 votes

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Last time I checked, adc wasnt taking resourses from 2 lanes from the start of the match...

Learn the difference ppl, you are another dude I encountered on Boards who thinks that Yi/Taric is same thing as bot lane. No. Bot takes resourses of one lane(we can argue, that later, some jngle as well, but definitely not to the extent of Yi), while Yi/Taric funnel pushes resourses from 2 roles into Yi.

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This is not what funnelling is

i was exaggerating a little on the use of the word to make a point about how teams put their resources into botlane. Yi has his own issues in that he can scale to his potential a bit to quickly if he gets any lead but i am fine with the strat.. it has counters and b4 you point out the taric making him invuln for 2.5 seconds. CC is pretty good universally against things that wanna kill you.. if you blow all your teams CC on him b4 he Qs and he dodges it all with a Q thats your fault.. if you force him to Q then throw out your CC you can lock him down.. if your team doesnt have any CC or not enough.. likely you would of lost to any carry with a taric ult.

edited b/c i dont use these boards often and this was the only way i knew how to double quote

WTBeGirl100EUhrFeb 27, 20204 votes

This is not what funnelling is.

KFCeytronFeb 27, 20202 votes

The weird part is that jungle and support items were specifically changed to counteract funneling (reduced minion gold for junglers with no completed jungle item and more minion CS than jungle CS, support items all needing a nearby ally) and it's still here. Surprise surprise, another failed rework for Riot Games.

Jng AccountFeb 27, 20202 votes

It lowed gold gained compared to before changes, it just isnt enough yet.

TormentulaFeb 27, 20201 votes

The gold is half the issue of funneling.

There's also the fact that lane XP has way more value than jungle XP (so the funneler profits in XP way more than the enemy jungler just jungling normally), and taric is way more broken when paired with a hyper carry than players would like to admit with the free stats + invincibility. If anything we've stopped karthus + twitch and lulu strats, but taric remains.

Tr4shB4NSYST3MFeb 27, 20201 votes

Imo the issue w/ that "fix" is that the 2 main Jg champs that can effectively funnel, MasterYi Karthus actually want item 1419 item 1414 . Imo, they should make it like the support items where if you farm over a certain # of lane minions in a set time they start giving massively reduced gold.

This way it doesnt punish junglers picking up a crashing wave or 2 when their laner is backed, but punishes the Lulu/taric/kayle Mid/top giving away all their farm to the jungler.