why do people hate illaoi?

SoldMomForRP·5/31/2016, 8:01:53 PM·4 votes·2,736 views

i just dont get it. people say she is weak i personally main her and her only weak side is going vs strong cc champs or vs tryndamere. and sometimes even that doesnt help and i still win lane. so why do people still say she is not good? btw they are buffing her right now on 6.11

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KVbqbFsC8e5/31/2016, 8:03:03 PM8 votes

Absolute cancer to play against.

Critmaster Garen5/31/2016, 8:12:45 PM4 votes

she had one of the most forgiving skillshots in the game, before they removed the minigame.

you can dodge it if you fail, you can deal damage to her to protect your spirit if you cant do that, you can leave and kill 3 tentacles.

people would come on the boards and honestly complain that her e doesnt have counterplay. it was probably the skillshot with the most counterplay attached in the game.

meanwhile there are skillshots in this game that are a direct death sentence. Blitzcrank

and even if it doesnt kill you, pretty much every single other skillshot instantly makes you suffer its negative effect, without giving you a second chance to avoid it after youve been hit.

venomous frost5/31/2016, 8:04:23 PM1 votes

don't go against illaoi that much, but if she gets fed its pretty much impossible for your team to shut her down. when ahead she can 1v1 anybody, and if you team up on her... well...yeah...

Baby Ghoul5/31/2016, 8:09:11 PM1 votes

Why would you say people hate her just because they mention she's not in an ideal spot?

That could be said about a lot of champions. I think she's a viable choice right now, even for ranked. I don't think she is the most ideal pick though.

Her win rate is considered low right now at 45% with a 2% pick rate top lane. I only had a problem against her when she first came out. I don't know what you guys are talking about cancerous or difficult to play against. Have you played against Maokai top lately? When you compare her to her peers you have even less of a reason to consider her toxic at the moment.

Illâoi Evê Siôn5/31/2016, 8:10:12 PM1 votes

Have you ever played AGAINST Illaoi with a champion that doesn't counter her? It's so frustrating. It's hard to imagine how she managed to reach live when Riot's always preaching about healthy design.

The recent nerf to her E cut that frustration down by a lot, but now she feels underwhelming in a lot of situations. The only reason to pick her is for her lane-bullying and her ult that can turn around teamfights, but champions like Malphite (for example) can do that and are better in other situations, too. She used to also be good at siegeing against most comps. Now she isn't.

So ... yes Illaoi is good, but fickle.

No flash no life5/31/2016, 8:13:57 PM1 votes

she doesn't provide service event, despite having so many tentacles.

jr deputy meow5/31/2016, 8:18:31 PM1 votes

because people don't try to dodge the most telegraphed skillshot in the game and get fucked

Lost R5/31/2016, 8:26:02 PM1 votes

Illaoi has odd strengths. She's decent in duels and trades (unless she's outnumbered while her skills are on cooldown, outranged or the enemy she's dueling with is a particularly devious duelist, like Fiora or Teemo), but her power truly shines during teamfights, when her healing and tentacles dish out enormous damage to everyone in range, and she is able to sustain through disgusting amounts of damage. This forces the enemy to focus you, which in turn makes them an easier target, if not for you then especially for your teammates.

Her primary weakness is a distinct lack of range and mobility. This means anyone with either of those two can kite her easily. This also means that once she is in a fight, she COMMITS. Her tentacles fire in a line, which also makes it difficult to sustain yourself if the enemy sees it coming and has the sense and ability to dodge; it's comparatively easier to land Darius' Q.

Don't get me wrong, she's strong and hits like a planet, but she has greater weaknesses than any of the other Juggernauts.

MunchCrunchLunch5/31/2016, 8:30:13 PM1 votes

because of her E. and her ult (but that was just early on). illaoi has incredible damage. with her tentacles. the problem is that she can't do anyting against ranged champs. and she can't really do much against tanky champs. why people hate her. because of her old E. it forces you out of lane for 45 seconds. first off u never fight her when she pulls your spirit because she'd be basically doing double damage if she hits you and the spirit and if your melee thats bound to happen if you fight her then. again her E felt like you can't do anything about it. and sure its a skillshot that you can dodge. but you can't dodge every damn 1. also if your melee she will come in melee ranged and pull you. that ability was simply being exploited as all illaoi players do is spam it on you even if your already a vessle because the rest of her kit is easy to play around.

personally. i don't know why would anyone pick illaoi over a utility tank. or darius which is a juggernaut that has better presence in team fights if he gets his passive going. and also he has a pull. or hell even garen that can basically eliminate the most fed enemy member because of his mini game.

i think the slow on her tentacles is a step in the right direction. but am sure as hell i dont like to lane against her even now. unless am playing nasus. her ultimate counter

PickpocketTwitch5/31/2016, 8:40:03 PM1 votes

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Wild Geese5/31/2016, 9:00:01 PM1 votes

The last 4 champions have been disasters on launch. It's all because Riot's obsession with this counterplay meme is making them just entirely too hard to be effective with. Too much emphasis on the feelings of the players who have to play against them. This shouldn't matter... Champions should be designed for their function, not just for "healthy gameplay experience" or whatever slogan is being used now.

Jhin got away with it, because of the champion he is, a ranged high damage dealer who in the end relies on autoattacks anyway (albiet, autoattacks with counterplay due to having to reload).

Billy VoHagen5/31/2016, 9:04:52 PM1 votes

She's good in laning, against certain champions.

That's it.

CerealBoxOfDoom5/31/2016, 9:06:17 PM1 votes

people don't like it when they have to actually think about what theyre doing

LordGeovanni5/31/2016, 9:17:17 PM1 votes

I dont see why they buffed her damage towards tanks when carries are the ones running out of control mages assassins and crit carries

Incognonymous6/1/2016, 12:41:54 AM1 votes

Illaoi has no tools to make you play her game, and if you don't, you instantly win against her. Tentacles are hilariously easy to deny. She has no disengage, and very limited engage, and her E is too easily blocked by minions.

I like her. I like her theme. But she doesn't feel satisfying to play.

Defended5/31/2016, 8:03:17 PM1 votes

Because she beats the shit out of you lol