katarina new rework OP

Baffalena··13 votes·16,504 views

So just today [9/11/2016] I was vsing a Katarina, I didn't mind the first time i vsed her because i thought to myself "Wow this person mush be very good with Kat". However, i slowly changed my mind as I started vsing more and more Kats and realized a pattern. The team with a Katarina will always win. What are your thoughts on the new Pre-Season Kat rework? Am I crazy or has she become a broken champion?

32 Comments

SICKNÈSS7 votes

Is this like a troll topic and I'm just not getting the joke? Kat's the most difficult out of all the reworked assassins (her rework made her even harder to play well) and as far as power is concerned - she's not that great atm. Not trying to be rude or anything, but if this is a serious thread - I'm baffled with people's stupidity or misconceptions about League of Legends. People used to think (the old) Kat is a pubstomper, you just mash buttons and win. The reworked Kat can't mash buttons and has to setup her daggers, but NOW she's really broken? LOL, getting sick seeing the average conversation about champs and the meta is silver 5 thinking levels. I know people with greater understanding of the game have simply given up to explain things to the average player, cause it's pointless, but man, sometimes I just can't stop myself. I apologize.

TyrekGoldenspear3 votes

Sadly they sound serious.

imotekh4 votes

Being harder to play doesnt mean less powerful. And yes the average conversation is silver level because that is where the average player is

ThunderCookiee1 votes

she is definitely not lol do you play league of legends? she is dumb easy and ridiculously overpowered. look at her stats at the current moment across the board.

Archangel Berial3 votes

dude i see people explode there lane with legit 1 item even if she is an assassin you shouldnt be able to bend your laner over and just 100 to 0 them in a combo spanning 1 second and she isent very hard lol if you throw a dagger at a champ in jump on that champ the dagger damn near always lands on you, and before you bs me i have played her she is stupid easy to play she dosent even have a skill shot .

Alex The Ninja2 votes

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Is this like a troll topic and I'm just not getting the joke? Kat's the most difficult out of all the reworked assassins (her rework made her even harder to play well) and as far as power is concerned - she's not that great atm. Not trying to be rude or anything, but if this is a serious thread - I'm baffled with people's stupidity or misconceptions about League of Legends. People used to think (the old) Kat is a pubstomper, you just mash buttons and win. The reworked Kat can't mash buttons and has to setup her daggers, but NOW she's really broken? LOL, getting sick seeing the average conversation about champs and the meta is silver 5 thinking levels. I know people with greater understanding of the game have simply given up to explain things to the average player, cause it's pointless, but man, sometimes I just can't stop myself. I apologize.

If you find reworked katarina to be mechanically challenging then I have a sad news for you - you will not get out of silver. Its also funny how you complain about "silver 5 thinking" but you are unranked yourself.

Ag3ntMain31 votes

She doesnt need to setup shit, she can leap to you and w and destroy you. I dont think its a high skill cap when all you need to is q+e+w+r+e/w and a kill right there.

Jukes my game2 votes

I think its hilarious you think That is the combo lol shows how much you know :P

Salatboy2 votes

Oh zed is so easy he just does w+e+r+q+f+u+c+k what the fuck can people stop complaining about the skillcap of champions and how OH xy Champion is so op he just does insert combo here Oh Azir is so easy, Oh Orianna is so easy. What is wrong with humanity

ChastieFol4 votes

i agree with u. kata now has really low cooldown.why such an op champion with low cooldown shouldn't need mana!

NeonCandy3 votes

Yea man, i'm with you. Only Katarina mains would disagree because right now they would be having a fun time.

CarryingEbola1 votes

This ^. Kat mains mad at this post.

Baffalena3 votes

:) Thx good to know I'm no the only one thinking this. If you could share this poll that would be nice, I want riot to realise they just gave Kat steroids. lol.

NeonCandy4 votes

Yea, so i found this on YT. Even people who stream L.O.L for a living like "Brofresco" agree her rework is op. She may no longer be able to jump to wards, but she can throw her knives with an even shorter cooldown allowing her to leap away quickly. Anyhow, here the link to a YT video which demonstrates her cooldowns+spam+earl and late game dmg. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwAhuMEoKKY

Poison DOT5 votes

Brofresco is also a person that said Lux would be OP if she had a slow

TreacherousEmp3 votes

Honestly, I started playing league for the first time about a 3 weeks ago. I am currently quitting until Katarina specifically gets fixed. She is honestly anti fun to play against.

TruelyTrueTrueth3 votes

i dont think the new is op at all

atleast now she cant 1v5 unless the enemy team is a bunch of dumbasses she is more team reliant and compared to the old kat im pretty sure this new kat requires a bit more skills to play

Archangel Berial2 votes

Honestly I find her beyond broken atm see it all the time she builds only gunblade and builds ga right after while still 100 to 0 ing champs left and right, like they need to fix her ratios or something no one should do 1500 dmg in a 3 ability burst with 1 item. Like normal people build a bunch of ap items to do what she does with 1 in a fraction of a second.

Salatboy1 votes

Uhm Leblanc is able to do deal 1000 dmg with one ability and nobody is complaining about that

Alex The Ninja2 votes

She is actually op as hell, no other champion can do as much dmg at lv 3 as her. Combine it with low cooldowns, no mana costs and super mobility and there you go. Also there is no skillshots in her kit, nothing she can miss and nothing you can dodge when playing against her. She is so noob-friendly and strong at the same time. In other words low skill cap, low risk - huge reward champion. Defeniately needs a nerf.

Salatboy1 votes

zed is able to deal the same amount of damage at lvl.3 if he is very skilled. if the zed player is really good he can kill you easy peasy at level 3. the thing is that you should play somebody who has a big lvl 3 powerspike like zed

Jmman2 votes

always first ban when I play.

Hige2 votes

you do have a small timeframe where you CAN do stuff, that said the skill that does the LEAST damage in her kit seems to be her ult, since it's more like a DoT I guess, her Q on the other hand hits like a truck and you barely have any time to react to that one, then shunpo is medium damage and her passive on the dagger is HUGE, it doesn't help that the skill seems to be bugged, let me explain:

when you throw a Q, a dagger flies through the air and lands on the floor, the time it takes the dagger to land can be completely overwritten by shunpo, it's almost as if she can catch the dagger in the air and to the rolling motion thing. While this is thematically correct, it increases her damage by a LOT and reduces reaction time by half on a skill that's already pretty damn fast.

FooodStamps2 votes

I just recently hit diamond 4 playing Zed, Ahri, and Anivia mid and I think Katarina is by far the most difficult champion in the game to play properly atm. Maybe when people do not know how to dodge her abilities she can be seen as broken but against better players who know not to walk backwards into the Q she becomes a much harder champion to work with. I don't play her myself but she's pretty uncommon in diamond and definitely very hard to pull off. If she got nerfed she would go into Azir tier of being too mechanically challenging for way way too little reward in an instant

Ag3ntMain32 votes

Katerina is completely broken. I thought she was an assassin not a tank that can kill you in 3 seconds. She doenst need to go AP either as she can build sunfire cape, randuin's armor and spirit visage and beat almost every champ. I think katerina is unhealthy at this stage as she is an assassin doing massive damage while being tanky and hard to kill. The assassin role play is to be squishy, maybe slightly tanky but not full on tank build. Please Nerf!!!

BurntFish1 votes

Never got a problem playing against old Katar but this new one teles like crazy. If she gets some first kills then easily snowball after

Åäö1 votes

Assassins usually snowball very well, that's the good part about them

venom4151 votes

I honestly feel like they ripped Talon E and added an enhanced version to Katarina , Tried facing her with talon to see if Riot finally put the final nerf nail in the Galio coffin, and from not using my e at all in lane for 30 min, the delay on my w missing champs way more often now and my q now jumps me into everyones abilities instead of teleporting behind them to avoid sneaky fizz ults from bush... Im sad to say goodbye to my main for the past few years :(

Salatboy1 votes

His E is mostly used to roam and yes it is kinda dumb, but you have really good 1v1 potential since your q crits in melee range.

Dowwnwind1 votes

Katarina has always been the champ with two abilities and one item: gunblade-flash-ult. period. her little dagger thing is useless if she doesnt hit you, and if you time it right it, just poke her when she tries to get it, she runs away for cooldown. other then that, all she has to do is flash ult a team fight, and she will take out like 3 people. she is like a world of warcraft hunter from burning crusade into wrath of the lich king: faceroll your keyboard, and do nothing.

however, she is also like ahri, yasuo, and zed, dont feed them, and force them to farm. 9 times out of 10 they cant do anything if htey are forced to farm, becasuie they cant snowball. i always tel my lanes look, she has one kill, shes going to roam, so ward up, and fall back. learn to reatreat. if she comes around, back off and ignore her. so what hapens? katarina will go 6/0 with 2 triple kills.

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