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Can we talk about Neeko?

Scryble··10 votes·15,755 views

What are your thoughts on the so called "Curious Chameleon?" Seems to me as if she's meant to be played in the jungle, most likely specializing in counter ganks. What's your favorite part of her kit that you've seen so far? Is it the fact that she can basically use the Tricksters Glass (RIP Black Market Brawlers)? I know that I'm definitely going to try and pick her up after her release.

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Ralanr31 votes

Honestly she’s gonna tilt so many people with mind games.

Hethalean8 votes

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Honestly she’s gonna tilt so many people with mind games.

It's a risky decision. I'm decently sure people already find LB passive and Shaco clone poor 'mind games' being more of '50 / 50 guesses', but it seems to have doubled down on it for the champ. We'll see. I do think the 'tilt' aspect is correct.

MysticDreams122 votes

But unlike Neeko, LB and Shaco are a bit easier to figure out. LB- click the clone and if the clone has items, that's the real her. Shaco- his health decays more rapidly if I remember right.

Neeko? She takes the FULL FORM of a champ along with their abilities. Where is the counterplay in that?!

Hethalean1 votes

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But unlike Neeko, LB and Shaco are a bit easier to figure out. LB- click the clone and if the clone has items, that's the real her. Shaco- his health decays more rapidly if I remember right.

Neeko? She takes the FULL FORM of a champ along with their abilities. Where is the counterplay in that?!

I'm decently sure both Shaco clone and LB clone copies buffs and items. Neither decays health faster (or do you mean takes more dmg)?

MysticDreams122 votes

I've been here since 2014 and LB's clone never copied buffs or items. It's always been that way as her form of counterplay.

I meant Shaco's clone takes more damage.

sirus otter17 votes

i think shes the leblanc rework that should of happened

sirus otter2 votes

beyond that shes definately jng or mid, however i believe she could be played support to

SteveKitty1 votes

She might be tricky as a support if your in a pre-made sure but solo it'll be tuff but I'm willing to try it xD summoner 21

Hethalean10 votes

I'm honestly nervous it's just another champion in a line of 'unfun' champions that they recently released. I don't think anyone thinks LB passive or Shaco Clones bring much for meaningful decisions beyond "Just guess / coin flip" which isn't usually fun imo.

DrCyanide6 votes
Handy Sandy 3 votes

I don't think she'll feel that terrible to play against. Unlike Shaco or Lb's passive, Neeko's kit REVOLVES around her clones. Her cc is fairly weak and her only source of heavy burst damage is her ult and her Q looks like a skillshot. To me, she looks pretty balanced.

AbsoluteMadmann10 votes

Already hate it

Fear the Kayn7 votes

Jesus her art style does not fit this game at all.

BigFBear6 votes

Yeah she looks weird. It's like they tryed to make her cute instead of making her a mystical creature like Kindred, but fail. Seeing a girl running on all fours like an animal looks kinda creepy.

Áiin1 votes

i mean shes not really a girl, shes a Vastaya which are basically animal people so its not surprising that shes on all fours

TotoBR01 votes

i was thinking the same thing, not digging the art style at all.

giannishannibal5 votes

My favority part in the video was the 3 Herarims running in the river. So scary to thing to see coming at you

sirus otter4 votes

i liked that she saved the suicide frog and asked it why its so sad XD

Vekkna4 votes

The frog suicide-jumped anyway. Sort of like us after seeing this asscancer champ kit.

WoodenCreature5 votes

CertainlyT's son did this abomination.

Ragnaveil3 votes

I feel like people are gonna get the wrong idea about her Mimic. Its basically Tricksters Glass (I even guessed it would function as such a day or two before the teaser came out). You copy everything but their abilities, and when an auto or spell is cast, you return to your normal self. I'm glad a fun item like that evolved into a champion's ability since it was too op as an item IMO.

Ravenhale3 votes

To be honest, I'm hoping she ends up more on the Utility spectrum like Ivern instead of something bursty like Zoe. If she's less feast or famine, I won't mind adding her to my roster.

OtterlyLost2 votes

Actually if she was more utility based instead of bursty, I would be completely okay with her.

Ravenhale3 votes

I picked up Zoe and played like three games on her. I just didn't feel like a team player with that champ, which is boring for me. I'm hoping Neeko will be more useful. She has an E binding and an Ult that is an AoE root. That sounds like Morgana and I love playing Morgana.

Eh, I even noticed her Q is similar to Morg's pool.

Vekkna1 votes

I'm hoping she ends up more on the Utility spectrum

That means accidental support.

Ravenhale1 votes

I actually don't think she will be a decent Support. I suppose she can, but her passive will just be silly. Everyone knows the ADC not CSing is the Neeko. That's why I mentioned Ivern. More of a Utility Jungler.

MysticDreams121 votes

I think people are saying how she would support is when they are getting ganked. Just like the video, she can mimic the ADC to confuse the enemy and make them chase the clone while the real ADC gets away.

Again though, that will be very frustrating to play against imo.

Ravenhale1 votes

She can't Mimic on demand, as it is her passive. And attacking or being attacked drops the mimic, so how on earth would that scenario evolve while laning? What is she doing? Sitting in a bush letting the ADC 2 v 1 so that she can distract them after he's been pushed out of lane by her nonsense?

As a support, she's going to be more like Morgana. She has a root that passes through minions and an Ult that also roots. The only times I really see her being able to use her passive effectively as a Support during the laning phase would be when they both return to lane so long as the ADC is on board with starting a fight instead of CSing. It will give them a moment of confusion to take advantage of. This can also be done with the jungler with a bit of coordination.

Edit:

Actually, it's starting to very much look like she can Mimic on Demand if her Passive is available. Still not sure how well this would translate in the laning phase as you would literally have to lose sight of both of them for that "switcheroo" to be effective.

MysticDreams122 votes

Well I hadn't seen any ability video so I thought it was on a spell.

That root and ult sound lovely. FUCKING NOT.

I don't like this champ one bit.

Ravenhale1 votes

It's a channeled, Neeko centric Ult. It is very much like Morgana. In the video where she mimicked Xayah at the Dragon Pit fight, Rakan used his ult to charm everyone so they couldn't react to Neeko's Ult.

Half the people here are trying to play her up as a LeBlanc rip off and I'm seeing all three of her Damage/CC spells (Q,E+R) as different renditions of Morgana's Kit.

Makes me curious what they are going to do for the Morgana update in January/February.

NineTailedMystic1 votes

It's a channeled

It's not a channel, can't be interrupted. It's a cast time.

Dollie Llama1 votes

I don't think you have to lose sight of both of them. If she gets right on her ADC, transforms before/after in range, and pops a W and everyone scrambles around, it will be nearly impossible to really keep track of. Now getting people to coordinate that effectively and make use of it is the hard part. But the strategy and usefulness is definitely there.

Dollie Llama1 votes

You use it a bit differently than for a lane cosmetic. As a tactic goes, her clone interacts with attacks and spells. She can goad/soak Morgana Q and hooks. If positioned and timed correctly, her W could be used as a shield for your ADC. Her passive would be more for playmaking when you know you can instill some doubt. I don't know that we will end up with a reliable way to determine if the champ coming at us is her or not as consistently as one might like.

JoeMG3 votes

I've been waiting for a champ/ability that lets you appear as another champ. Maybe I'm just being optimistic, but I don't think it will be as bad as people are thinking.

I'm guessing it is her passive and even if it's not, it looks like she has to be near an ally champ to turn into them (See part in video where she turns into Warwick just by walking past him). That means during the laning phase, when everyone is keeping to their own lanes, she's not really going to have a passive/ability. Mid-late game she will be much more effective, but that will also depend on the coordination of her teammates.

All in all I think she will still be less annoying than Zoe

Who Fed Ru2 votes

was zum fick ist das

saltran2 votes

Seems like a Jungler/Mid for me.

Eleshakai2 votes

She looks super fun, to me. I am interested to see if I can make her work as a support. :)

Preusedsoap1 votes

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She looks super fun, to me. I am interested to see if I can make her work as a support. :)

i mean she has a root taht goes through minions, a q to poke with and a high damage ult, dont see why not

Eleshakai1 votes

ya, that's my thought as well. The question is if her base numbers are high enough, 'cause supports don't get a lot of AP... but I think she'll work.

Profirix2 votes

She looks a lot more like a roaming support. I have a hard time thinking that with the skills they revealed she would be able to clear the jungle.

ProffessorAutism2 votes

3 HIT PASSIVE AGAIN THEY JUST CANT STOP WITH THIS OBSESSION FOR F*CKS SAKE

Illabethe2 votes

Like most control mages..... she's going to be able to play at least 4 roles: Top, Jungle, Mid, and Support. Most control mages can do this right now.

OtterlyLost1 votes

I worry shes going to be frustrating to play against but she looks cute and enjoyable to play. She also just looks like a better LB

sirus otter3 votes

she IS the LB rework that lb should have gotten but didnt

Naalith3 votes

She looks like she plays nothing like LeBlanc at all. LeBlanc is a hyper mobile champion and her mobility makes her ridiculous, Neeko has basically no mobility and is all about jukes and actual trickery. She looks like she plays more like Zyra but with shapeshifting rather than plants and a melee ult. Her Q, root, and R mimic Zyra really hard, but she probably does more spell damage since she has no plants.

Dollie Llama1 votes

She plays a LOT like Zyra. She feels pretty natural and familiar to me as a Zyra main, which is why I will probably try really hard to make good use of her as a support.

Ozzie Storm1 votes

I'm curious to what the limits are to her copying ability. It has to be her ult die to how powerful it is. Will we be able to use the abilities of other champs? For how long can we hold our form? Are we revealed the second we receive damage? And we haven't taken good look on her own kit yet. It looks like she has Ez new w but that roots and a "splitting in half" ablity but what's her damaging ability? Will she be have the same kit theme as Zoe (basic ability being her only damage output)?

Edit: Just got a few answers to the questions i had.

She looses her form when casting a damaging ability or receiving any ind of damage aka poke her to reveal.

Vekkna2 votes

It has to be her ult die to how powerful it is.

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Yeah....definitely not an ult.

TrapRitz

Why cant i pick Neeko? some games i can't search her up???? since i bought her iv'e only gotten to play her twice

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