Or, we can remove the ability to ward hop.

Noname4123·1/25/2016, 12:50:08 AM·174 votes·6,037 views

Remove it from Jax Katarina LeeSin Instead of offering it to Braum

Ward hopping didn't even make any sense to begin with.

83 Comments

Uiraya1/25/2016, 3:22:34 AM27 votes

Removing obvious bullshit would fix so many problems. Why doesn't Riot just do it?

Dengeden1/25/2016, 10:08:40 AM22 votes

Remove champions too, they didn't even exist prior to release. Like wtf, they bring nothing to the game.

Girard1/25/2016, 2:09:15 AM9 votes

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Yummines1/25/2016, 1:07:53 AM8 votes

Ward Hop + Dragon Kick is part of the reason why Lee Sin is so powerful. He probably has the greatest utility out of all junglers, and partly because he has such a strong displacement skill like that.

Personally I think giving Braum ward hop would be better since it doesn't make sense that only his hop didn't work, especially since Jax and Katarina's skills are attacking skills and not defensive ones like Lee Sin.

kaltenashes1/25/2016, 1:16:52 PM7 votes

these champs got balanced around this mechanic, if riot removes it they'll be Sejuani's best friends forever

Hayaishi21/25/2016, 1:33:13 AM6 votes

Braum doesn't need ward hop, adding it for him is just unnecessary power.

Lee Sin's identity is ward hopping at the moment, that's his most iconic ability right there with his Q, i don't see why it should removed, it's not game breaking and the last time Lee Sin was the top dog in the jungle was when we still had the Elder Lizard as AD jungle item.

Skypual1/25/2016, 2:33:10 PM5 votes

Why are you proposing such bs changes I can't even understand, those champions are balanced around that mechanic, it brings a lot of power to them, Lee Sin would be very weak without ward jumps, Jax and Kata can survive without it I guess but still people would now circlejerk on Lee being only one with ward hopping.

HoukagoFapTime1/25/2016, 9:28:57 AM5 votes

It makes sense with those 3 champs. It doesn't make sense with braum.

La Barbotte1/25/2016, 2:20:19 AM4 votes

jax jump shouldnt require a target, its should work like kha zix's, jump where he pleases with a small slam on the ground dealing small AoE dmg, katarina should only work on enemies like talon and lee sin is too much of a core gameplay to be removed without gutting him completely, without ward jumps hes a one trick pony

Shinjusuke1/26/2016, 12:03:01 AM3 votes

This logic is far too advanced for a champion design team that picks favorites and grants them complete immunity to the base design threads that constrain the rest of the roster for the sake of balance, clarity, and generally good play experiences.

In short: "Durr Lee Sin pawpoolurr we no actually fix so make sense cuz big playz"

weeaboomer1/25/2016, 12:59:18 PM3 votes

Jax just remove his ability to ward hop.

Vesarixx1/25/2016, 1:02:44 AM3 votes

They already tried removing ward hopping and people hated it, back when Lee Sin was released it started out as a bug, they ended up changing it instead so that it revealed the wards and released champions since then that could do it, chances are it's here to stay.

mack91121/25/2016, 4:48:18 PM2 votes

I think meddler already posted a well written post on this on the original thread :)

Quepha1/25/2016, 7:16:21 PM2 votes

I like things as they are. I hate Lee Sin but he wouldn't be Lee without ward hopping. Katarina and Jax as assassins are much more fun with slippery escapes. Braum is a champion that helps out his team and I prefer keeping track of where all my allies are to determine how I can get to where I want to go than to just drop a ward. I really like the strategic implications of bro diving if one of your allies has a strong dive, and I like jumping out of danger because an ally was there to give me a hand.

Poptart Evelynn1/25/2016, 9:34:50 PM2 votes

Katarina Would actually make her useless if you removed it.

A lot of Kat mechanics for teamfights, engaging teamfights, picking, and also escaping ganks all rely on trinket jump.

rtbf2256182411/25/2016, 9:27:58 AM2 votes

It adds a big skill-factor and reward for pulling it off. For example, people who do it don't always pull it off perfectly, there are delays and they miss their mark at times.

Tibbers Cousin1/25/2016, 7:28:56 PM1 votes

Hey you should definitely change your name OP