If we nerf Talon's Ult Cooldown...

Saeko24·2/28/2016, 11:29:31 AM·85 votes·5,217 views

... can we please nerf Lux' Ult Cooldown too? Thanks.

61 Comments

24K Dama2/28/2016, 9:58:23 PM10 votes

Should nerf zed before talon. Zed is way stronger than talon in high elo.

alfavhunter2/28/2016, 10:57:48 PM6 votes

How to nerf lux ult and buff it at same time

R CD increased by 100%

If lux ult hits a champion already effected by her passive the CD is reduced by 50% (putting it at live values)

This means if she uses it to snipe from afar it has a longer CD, but if she uses it in closer range where she lands One of her other abilities first it gets a much lower CD, this balances it vs long range snipes but keeps its power in closer range fights

Modl Ryden l2/29/2016, 7:09:03 AM4 votes

I don't care about Lux's ult CD. Her Snare is WAY too long of a duration at rank 1! They need to reduce it to .75 and scale up to 2.00.

Chuck Charles2/28/2016, 4:26:00 PM3 votes

I am not sure if Lux ultimate nerf is the way to nerf her. I main Lux and she defiitely needs to be toned down. (pretty overtuned, but not "broken") right now.

Ult cooldown nerf would definitely give her a window of weakness though thats for sure, but honestly I don't think it will make her lane phase any less oppressive or her general safety any worse. i still stand by the idea that they should swap the cooldowns on E and Q. If E is 15 seconds scaling to 11 at max rank and Q is a flat 10 seconds at all ranks, it makes her weaker in lane early while her cooldown on E is up slightly less at max Rank. Her Q having a shorter cooldown gives her more opportunities to get picks later in the game while not buffing her early game to compensate as you will not be throwing this out on cooldown unless you want jungler up in your face constantly. (if you throw this out for harass you are going to have a bad time)

Q is also a much harder ability to hit than the E.

The only fear I have with it though is if that does happen or something similar to the E, then her waveclear which is already bad, becomes even worse. without Luden's and time to proc your passive on minions, her wave clear is not good or instant on the likes of Ziggs/Morg/Viktor etc. Which is ok I guess. But if you make that even weaker she might just get shoved in constantly. Not necessarily a bad thing, but I don't know if thats an intended weakness of Lux.

Alternatively, you could actually just flat out nerf the cooldown of Q as she has a bigger window to being vulnerable if she misses. If Lux misses Q she has about a 11-15 second window where you can run at her or gank her. Extend that and her pick potential/vulnerability go up which would further emphasize her main weakness of being dove.

Acidic Puddle2/29/2016, 6:29:01 PM2 votes

Well Talon was broken (Meddler even said so) so they nerfed him. Lux on the other hand is in a good spot.

HoukagoFapTime3/1/2016, 2:21:27 PM2 votes

So we should also nerf Syndra's ult since it's back up every 40-50 seconds as soon as she gets some CDR? That's a point and click nuke that procs Thunderlord too.

EcchiOtakuTM3/1/2016, 1:50:08 AM2 votes

Lux only needs a rank 1-4 Q snare nerfed to 1/1.25/1.5/1.75/2 and E's slow nerfed to 22/24/26/28/30%. Hurts her utility without gutting her and everyone's happy.

Her ulti is fine.

UrPalAl2/29/2016, 4:30:02 AM1 votes

I want Lux deleted more than any other champ in the game.

That's saying a lot.

If she lands a q on you, just one q, then you're dead.

Sahn Uzal2/28/2016, 12:04:35 PM1 votes

HSSS... You are gonna get the Talon nerfs reverted. We gotta be happy with what we got. -_- Meddler said Lux will get nerfed soon :P summoner 31