ARAM Reduce Dogging

anoobisanoobisa·Jan 24, 2017·4 votes·919 views

Hey there. I know ARAM is more of a sideprojekt but as a main ARAM player I get more and more annoyed by people dodging games because they got a champion they didn't like. I think the easiest way to prevent this behavior would be to lock the champion which they doged for future games. This would also promote the intendet idea of aram. In connection with this I think upping the reroll numbers to 3 or perhaps 5 would be great. Or maybe, although I am not a fan of the Idea, introduce a "Pay to reroll buttom" for RP.

Thanks in advance and keep up the good work,

sincerly Wollfred

9 Comments

Elite4RunnerJan 24, 20172 votes

As someone who also plays a lot of ARAM on this account, I think this would be a bad idea.

I understand your logic, and I personally can agree that dodgers are incredibly irritating. The spirit of ARAM is to work with what you are given.

However, forcing players to play a champion that they do not want to play is not really very healthy for the game.

I feel that there will be two likely results to come from this.

People will simply abandon the game mode completely until their rerolls reset.
People will go ahead and play the game as that champion, but they will play very badly, or feed, troll, flame, or just afk, just so they can get to a new game where they may even get another champion that they don't want to play.

I would honestly rather them just dodge so that I can get put back in que.

anoobisanoobisaJan 24, 20171 votes

Hi there to 1) i dont see the problem with that to 2) maybee, but there are aready masures in place to punish people who do that (at least I think)

MinardeJan 24, 20171 votes

forcing players to play a champion that they do not want to play is not really very healthy for the game.

It seems a little weird to have to appease people who are unwilling to play a random champion in a game mode specifically based around playing random champions.

Personally, I think even harsher punishments for dodgers/trolls would be preferable, but I understand where you're coming from.

LimmieJan 24, 20172 votes

The reason people dodge when they don't get a good champion is that there are so many ARAM-only accounts with nothing but good ARAM champions that if you don't get an ARAM-good champion you'll 90% lose so you might as well not even bother. The whole premise of ARAM is flawed because it's never a level playing field.

The only solution would be to make every champion available to everyone in ARAM, or at least make it so that everyone (enemies included) will always draw from the same pool. That way you won't necessarily feel like dodging if you get a bad champion because the enemy will have the same chance as you of getting a bad champ as well.

anoobisanoobisaJan 24, 20171 votes

I guess that could work but think than it should be somehwo enssured that every role is is assigened, which could be easyly done. Like tank, supp adc etc. Although this would decrease the randomness it would ensure an evener battleground. Lets just call it ARAM Pro ;) If people then think ap Malph is worth its theire decission and the team's, they are playing with, resposebility to report players if indicated, who do not get that aram is a teameffort too

SrbLudJan 24, 20171 votes

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The reason people dodge when they don't get a good champion is that there are so many ARAM-only accounts with nothing but good ARAM champions that if you don't get an ARAM-good champion you'll 90% lose so you might as well not even bother. The whole premise of ARAM is flawed because it's never a level playing field.

The only solution would be to make every champion available to everyone in ARAM, or at least make it so that everyone (enemies included) will always draw from the same pool. That way you won't necessarily feel like dodging if you get a bad champion because the enemy will have the same chance as you of getting a bad champ as well.

Something like one-for-all pool? Combine the pools of everyone and pick from there? I think that would work...

Valderis VandalaJan 24, 20172 votes

If you introduce this keep-your-champion-after-a-dodge you're just gonna see people dodging for other reasons, like when their teammates get bad champions.

If you happen to get a good champion but your teammate did not then it has the same consequences for your chance at winning, so you with the good champion can just dodge the game in the knowledge that you will keep your good champion and get another chance with a new team. This also makes keeping bad champions a mood point because its other people that dodge so the person with the bad champion will get a new one in the next game because he didn't dodge.

I also think it would be better not to increase the amount of rerolls you get, but instead simply always have 2 rerolls available every game instead of this stupid charge system. It's this charge system that can't deal with spurts of bad luck, I can go a lot of games never having to use any reroll but then a unlucky game comes along and I'm forced to use both, leaving me in the hands of fate for a good number of games. If we simply always had 2 rerolls every game this would not be a problem.

EDIT: I also think that giving 2 rerolls every match will lower the dodge rate, because everyone will be able to use them every game thus lowering the need to dodge games. At least somewhat.

SrbLudJan 24, 20171 votes

No point. We begged riot with that same idea.

anoobisanoobisaJan 24, 20171 votes

Well, if we do it again and again maybe they will responed. Worked for Ghandie ;)