So I just played Azir against Veigar mid, and I've always hated Veigar, but today I realized that he is a little TOO OP. After he got one kill on me, because even though I was full health he landed his abilities once and ulted and I was dead. After that, he could land just ONE ability, ult and I was dead. I think that it would be a lot less OP if his circle wasn't as long and the stun was shorter.
Vanic9981 votesWhile I do agree with you, the statistics don't prove that for some reason.
FioraWillCarry1 votes
Never lose trades again.
RavenOfPallas1 votesGotta bait that stun. His entire kit is basically built around it. Everytime i play against him i take 
. scares the mess out of most of them because they dont expect someone to take anything but flash/ignite.
4th Chiming Lamb1 votesAs a Veigar off-main, take these against us and win:
Take these against us and lose:
Very Hard Engage1 votes
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if you built that first/second item, sure you wouldn't kill anything ever, but i would be instantly tilted and rage the rest of the game.
3rd or 4th still good too.
R0GER1 votesI don't think viegar is too strong... but since Rito nerfed the ap items, maybe its time to nerf veigar's PASSIVE ; I have no problem the way veigar is right now... but in late game, 800 ap vs 1200ap with the exact same build... that is unfair... just saying
Blumpkin Nation1 votesTBH, people are probably downvoting you because 1) You're playing Azir and 2) Veigar (at least with his E) can zone Azir from making plays for a few seconds.
Azir aside in this matchup, I do think Veigar needs a change. I believe the duration on his E is too long. The stun ranks 1.5/1.75/2/2.25/2.5 and the wall lasts for 3 seconds. I believe the wall should either be reduced to 2 seconds or should scale with rank. Such as 2/2.25/2.5/2.75/3 or something of the sort. Being unable to do much for 3 seconds on any champ is a pretty harsh environment, especially in the early game.
