AFK(Loss Prevented)(Ranked)

FallensLove·Oct 8, 2014·7 votes·3,389 views

In Ranked There Is Constantly an AFK . And that needs to be fixed. I believe that its very unfair That we lose because a 4v5 game or 3v5 its happens. I think when a team has an AFK it should be a loss prevented because it is not a fair game. i know everyone has the frustrations of an afk. this is a team game. You cant fairly win if its not even on both parties. I think we should Have some kind of system for teams who has afk's Does anyone have any other ideas what they should do with this issue.

15 Comments

GnãrlyOct 8, 20142 votes

in the least they should not start a game if someone never connected

KonidiasOct 8, 20142 votes

Yeah, games shouldn't even start if someone never connects. Just kick everyone back out to lobby and count it as a dodge for the person who didn't connect.

But you can't have loss prevented for afks... Even if they afk from the start. Let's look at this exploitable example:

You are in champ select and things aren't going well. Players are troll picking and fighting and you just want to dodge... but... that lp and time penalty is so annoying. So you stick it out and the game starts.

Then you just minimize the game and never play. Oh look! Your team surrenders at 20 from being slaughtered in constant 4v5s and... LOSS PREVENTED! Woohoo, no lp lost, and only 20 minutes penalty instead of 30+

Yeah... so loss prevention on afk does not work.

You could say "well just punish the afker, don't give them loss prevented but give the rest of the team a loss prevented"

But... I can see a way to abuse this as well.

You and a friend duo q... and then one of you goes AFK from the start. At this point it's a 4v5, but that's fine. Odds are, someone on the enemy team is going to feed or troll or who knows... So maybe it's closer to a 4v4.

Either way, your 4 man team plays and if they win, awesome, they all get LP and IP and a win. If they lose, that's cool too, because... LOSS PREVENTED. So it's essentially a way that you could play the game and never ever lose a game, but there is a possibility that eventually you could win some games. So you could literally game the system to never give you a loss... Ever.

DecafLatteOct 8, 20144 votes

An easy way to solve this exploit would be to punish everyone that queue'ed together.

Zakt0nFeb 14, 20152 votes

3 of last 5 ranked games AFKS on my team ! what a joke , can't believe i lost almost two gaming hours waiting on surrenders. Even worse these horrible scores in AFK games kill my points, my losses more than cancel out the wins. 10 wins ahead=55 points !

REALLY i need to sit through 12-15 AFK games and get ahead 20 wins for one series ! Lame that's 60+ games at a 2/3 win rate

DrakoniakOct 8, 20141 votes

This was already discussed tons of times, if being afk grants you a loss prevent you could DUO and when you were about to lose your duo or you could plug the Net off rendering afk thus granting you / him loss prevent due to afk, this is mechanical abuse. Just deal with it for now, there are new punisments incomming AKA ranked restrictions.

IskootOct 8, 20142 votes

Um, no. If you're about to lose, pulling the plug to go AFK would not grant a loss prevention...because he would have played the whole game up until that point!

No, instead, we are talking about people who are AFK for ENTIRE games! From the start...never connecting...never leaving base. THOSE games should be loss prevented.

FallensLoveOct 8, 20142 votes

Hmm . I was Thinking maybe a time limit of inactivity and you will automatically get booted. so you cant join they would get a defeat while the others receives loss prevented and also a ban penalty .

But the loss prevented i was suggesting it to the Solo Q. I understand it has more cons. But if the execute it perfectly it would be great . alot of summoners would be a more happy community. but yeah we would have to suck it up and get over it .
but i still think the terminal is still weak . i dont think it helps any. i think we should get a notification if the person we reported had been banned or so. maybe im over thinking it :///

SunGoldNov 7, 20142 votes

It would be very cool if you had a option to cancel the game if the afk or dc doen't come back after a good period of time. In my opinion i think that the 5vs5 games are suposed to be played by all 5players from both team (and the enemy team that is all conected doen't deserve a free win, I'm sorry ... no one deserves that free win, cuz this shoud be a skill game after all...). summoner 13 {{summoner:17}} summoner 3

item 3105 The dc player can report the problem to Riot if the client it crashed and we could even imagine a sistem that registes the if the dc player client crashed or something.

If he's afk cuz he's a troll then know that a person that afk's just turns off the game, this should be enough for the sistem to know that you actually afk cuz you were trolling and crying; etc.

The first ranked game i played in months i had a afk or a dc (i don't know i can't know that for sure ofc) but it's frustating and you know very well that feeling, i don't play ranked anymore cuz like if i'm going to play and we are 4 vs 5 i kown i'll lose. And c'mon don't tell me that "we can win 4 vs 5 " playing since end of season 2 and i'm kinda sick of that story. and i don't need a guide on to how to win a 4 vs 5 cuz bottom line you'll probably lose ether way and you should encorage people to force playing a 4 vs 5 and trying after all you are wasting time of your life on a game thats already lost since the begining. it's just wrong, you are playing a ranked game (competetive mode) and if it's 5 vs 5 and like i said no one shoud be alowed to win vs a team with less member.

I took inspiration for this on games that the pleople from the enemy team say - "sorry for the afk gg";"you deserved to win you played well"; and so on.

RaptameiOct 8, 20144 votes

This was already discussed tons of times, if being afk grants you a loss prevent you could DUO and when you were about to lose your duo or you could plug the Net off rendering afk thus granting you / him loss prevent due to afk, this is mechanical abuse. Just deal with it for now, there are new punisments incomming AKA ranked restrictions.

How hard is it to punish both the afker and his duo partner?

McKizzNov 9, 20141 votes

Exactly. It's not hard. But they refuse to fix this bullshyte.

Implement it to where it does not activate for duo queue. Fixed. Not that hard. Make it percentage based. If someone goes afk for more than 25% of the game, loss prevented. THERE ARE CREATIVE AND POSSIBLE WAYS TO FIX THIS AND DRASTICALLY IMPROVE RANKED QUEUES. And for the player that goes AFK? If they're gone <50% of the game, double LP loss.

I'm done playing league after s4 and heading to another DOTA style game if it's not fixed. I'll spend my money elsewhere. It's not worth the wasted time when 4 people get punished (BY LOSING MORE LP THAN A WIN) just because some douche-frick went afk.

Win as a team. Lose as a team. Unless there's an afk. Then your team is just effed. For the love of god please do SOMETHING to address this instead of making willing, hard working players suffer.

The MormonatorOct 8, 20141 votes

I think it would be wise to talk about what loss prevention actually is...It's a switch that Riot can basically turn on when they need to. It is not something they can ever grant to specific games and applies to all games being played on the server. Changing that code or implementing new code that allows Loss Prevention to be given to one specific team at a time would take a lot more than most people think.

holyjukeJan 14, 20151 votes

It would be better if riot match the people in promotion together Most people who are in promotion wants to win so there won't be afks. Last time, I got a bronze 4 in my silver 4 ranked game RIP. 0/7 O_O