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OlePaw··2 votes·768 views

I just don't understand why I was placed silver 5 when I finished Gold 5 last season and went 7-3 in my promos. Not exactly a way to congratulate a player for doing good in his promos. I have a friend that finished in gold 5 as well and finished he promos 6-4 and got placed silver 4. The system isn't exactly what i'd call fair...

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Fallenliam1 votes

I think huzzy covers the matter very well. please watch he talks about what he knows (with a bit of assumptions) and he also covers that this season is being harsher then last seasons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVVhaAVHfOY

OlePaw1 votes

Well, I was talking to a guy on the other team in soloq and he placed s3 and finished g5 last season but went 3-7 In his promos. It just really doesn't add up to me is all. Take in mind that the guy that placed s3 I completely demolished in lane so i don't get how he's considered better than me is all. It's almost like I got punished for doing good while others did quite bad and are almost rewarded for it.

Fallenliam1 votes

It feels punishing because you lost mmr between seasons. This means that you weren't in gold 5 mmr when you did placement. the mmr reset probably set you closer to mid silver and therefore you fell further because of those loses. It seems punishing because you are expecting higher silver but aren't thinking about the mmr lost due to reset

Curtis Woodard1 votes

Honestly what I think riot did is do a soft-reset like previous seasons, but a harder soft-reset. A firm-reset? I won't complain though, I mirrored your win\loss (3-7) and went from G2 to S2 [slayer-jinx-catface]

OlePaw1 votes

I just find it troublesome, I don't want to have to climb all the way back out of silver again.

DbQBpHgp4q1 votes

I went 8-2 in Promos, was s4 last season and am now B2.

ElysMustache1 votes

I have finished placements on two of my accounts.

The first was Silver V, went 6-4, and placed Bronze I. That's reasonable.

Second account was Silver IV, went 9-1 in placements, placed Bronze I also.

Now I get it, that they don't want you to place higher than you finished last season. But what if I'm just much better than I was at the end of last season? Account #2 only had about 10 games played on it in Season 5... just enough to do placements. I then played 155 games on my main, which had originally been seeded in Bronze IV, but which I then progressed up to Silver II. I also kept playing ranked games throughout the preseason.

What's the point of the reset? That's my real question. It should be to move people who are in a place they don't belong. Bad players should not be in Diamond, players who are good should not be in Bronze. Really that simple. Now I'm not saying I'm good, I'm maybe average, but I'm certainly better than Bronze, and I don't belong there.

At the end of last season, I was still moving up in rank. I feel like I was worthy of Gold V. I had a 59% win-rate on my main. But I had played 155 games like I said, to move up from bad placements that put me in Bronze IV. I simply didn't have time to play more games than that. I have a wife and three kids. I'm active duty military.

So the reset doesn't make sense to me. It seems like how many wins you get in your Placements does not affect where you land. At least, not enough. I would really like to know why I can go 9-1 in placements on a higher ranked account and have the exact same results as going 6-4. If Riot simply wanted to lower everyone's division, they could do that without the placement matches. Therefore the placement matches should offer something else, but they don't. They simply lower your rank that you earned, even if you are better than what you earned. So now on my smurf, I will be a Silver II player getting matched with people that are legitimately Bronze III. Sucks for them. Really that won't happen very much because almost all my time will be on my main, cause ranked is a grind, and I'm not going to grind a smurf account. I'll be grinding this one.

TL;DR: Placements don't make sense. Riot please.

edit: Watched Huzzy video, reset makes more sense. Still feels like placements are arbitrary in terms of results. Looking forward to the ranked season regardless.

OlePaw1 votes

I completely agree man. I finished gold5 and was placed silver5 for going 7-3. I was hoping I'd be placed somewhere around s3 or s2. Now I have to climb out of silver for the 3rd time. It would of been much easier if i would of got a decent placement is all im saying.

Fallenliam1 votes

OK so the average player places silver 4. Its the largest pool. Moving everyone towards that point (aka bring your mmr DOWN) lets player who were in challenger climb back up in mmr. It also averaged bronze players up to that level but not as much.

So with that in mind and the rule of thumb of which you can't place HIGHER then you were last season becuase of the mmr reset. Everyone has moved about 2 tiers back from what they would of got with their placements.

Now my thing is if your whining about where your placed it means you don't think your good enough to get back where you were. Which is such a bad way to look at this.

Sukishoo1 votes

You are always placed at least a Tier under where you were the previous season. Season 4 I finished in Gold 5 and season 5 I was placed Silver III... so it's just how the system has always been.

It really depends on how high your MMR was that season, since I only went 5-5 during the matches and was placed in mid silver, it shows me that my MMR was a bit higher then it had been previous seasons when I'd be placed bronze.

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