Any Fiora Mains?

Zappakerz·11/5/2015, 9:10:22 PM·2 votes·915 views

I'm trying to get myself a good mix of champs to play for next ranked season so I just recently started playing Fiora top lane. So far I really like her but I'm having a hard time finding good tips for her so I have a few questions I'd like to ask the people that are far more knowledgable with me than I am. First, I am having a very hard time balancing my cs and mark targeting; I either focus one or the other far to much and end up putting myself in a bind mid/late game. I've also found myself wanting to rush ravenous hydra despite me seeing multiple builds recommending a Tiamat, Brutalizer, to Youmuu's combo. What stats should i be focusing and my mechanics usually consist of using W,Q,E then ult if need be but i've only been able to hit 3 sides at most when I use it and fail to succeed in team fights when the health benefit would be more prevalent. Any tips would be greatly appreciated and thanks in advance!

4 Comments

Toastey11/5/2015, 9:19:58 PM2 votes

I'm not a Fiora main, but I grinded a bit on her when she first came out. Let's address your questions one by one.

  1. Vitals vs CS This is just an issue of knowing when to trade in lane. I suggest you focus on stepping up your laning phase game overall, and it should become pretty clear when you should be poking vitals and when you should play back for CS. In general, just try to poke when you won't miss a creep because of poking.

  2. Build I can't give you advice on this, especially since the new season is bringing so many new items and item changes. Experiment with builds and see what feels good. Remember that builds will function and feel differently if you're ahead or behind. The stats you should be focusing on for a Fiora build are AD, CDR, and HP.

  3. Mechanics/Combos You shouldn't be opening fights with your Parry/Riposte; save that for an important enemy cooldown or CC. If you're good enough, you'll even parry ultimates. Generally the bread-and-butter combo that I've seen/come up with is as follows: auto -> E (auto reset) -> auto -> hydraQ -> auto until Q is back up -> Q. By hydraQ, I mean that you cancel your Hydra active animation with your Q (it also works with your W). The way you do it is you press the button to activate your Hydra and Q or W immediately before the Hydra animation goes off. This deals the Hydra damage during the animation of Q or W, cutting down on time and taking away the lock-up time of the Hydra animation.

Baby Ghoul11/5/2015, 9:58:06 PM1 votes

You should prioritize CS above everything else no matter who you're playing.

If you know you can best your opponent in lane, then focus on neutralizing them early. Generally top lane is called early. If you have room to be aggressive and proc vitals, take advantage of it. Be prepared though and always ward. A very small percentage of people will know how to bait you out when you try to hit a vital. Test that, and always treat your opponent like they're your best. If they are someone who plays like that, then it's better to just farm because you likely will not be able to kill them 1v1 until you get your items. Lane bullies are very effective against Fiora when they know her kit, so in that case it is better just to farm unless someone is ganking.

Do not rush Hydra, but finish it when you have a chance. Go for Tiamat as soon as you can. I do always end up finishing Hydra earlier, so it shouldn't be the last item you complete or anything.

Regular Build

3 AD Quints, 9 flat AD reds, 9 scaling armor yellows, CDR blues or scaling MR. I switch to scaling health and flat magic resist when I'm against AP opponents.

Standard 21/9/0 masteries

Also when I play Fiora I generally use summoner 12 summoner 14 for my spells as I am pretty aggressive during the laning phase. If you aren't comfortable without flash, then that's fine. Choose teleport or ignite.

item 3074 item 3078 item 3508 item 3142 item 3072 item 3158 I like these items on Fiora, but I rarely am able to get these same items together. They are just in the majority of my builds.

Choose between item 3071 and item 3078 . I like Trinity more, even though it's not as popular as it was 2 months ago. It gives you everything else you need to be a successful Fiora. I think item 3035 is good to get in some situations with Black Cleaver as well. Base your choice around your matchups.

If you need defensive items item 3143 item 3065 item 3156 item 3102 are all acceptable too.

For boots I go item 3158 or item 3111 . CDR and tenacity are lifesavers.

What you build is ultimately up to you. I've tried many builds on Fiora with a lot of success, and many people do prefer to have at least one defensive item. I just prefer this one generally. I'm an old Fiora main, so maybe that's why I've become so used to a Fiora that just deletes people. I also main support, so if I'm not supporting, I want to play aggressive.

Cooldown redution, lifesteal, and mobility are my favorites on Fiora, and I generally see people do better KDA wise who focus on that. They allow you to duel effectively, stress your advantages, and stay onto people.

As a Fiora main, you're pretty lucky most of the time. A lot of people have banned her or refuse to learn her kit, so when she makes it past banning phase or you're in normals the chances of you getting punished for your mistakes are very slim. Practice makes perfect though, and you won't always have this situation. I say it's a great time to take her into normals and learn her.

HappyHazard0711/5/2015, 10:41:43 PM1 votes
  1. that is just basic trading. You can find a guide somewhere for that. Though i would say cs is primarily the better choice(steady gold stream is almost always the better choice than a non-certain burst of gold in exchange for that stream) unless you can put your opponent in an unfavorable position health wise where you can get a kill on the next all in.

  2. Build wise, as a beginner i think item 3074 /item 3071 (ad/cdr/lifesteal are fioras most loved stats) into 2 Hp/Resistance items is the better option. TANK BOOTS ARE THE ONLY OPTION IN TERMS OF BOOTS. Fiora's true damage allows her to always be relevant damage wise so being able to bear some focus with the tank items will serve you well when trying to proc an ult heal in a teamfight. Get Whatever you think would be best after that. Though if you want to go pure offensive for your final item get a item 3072. Lifesteal procced of hydra passive is really underrated in how much it lets her survive. Her build probably won't change due to next patch just because none of the new ad items really look good enough to compete with her core. Maybe the new death's dance item could replace item 3072 as the 3rd offensive item?

Combo wise: The most important think is to learn to do the Q>E>Hydra active combo which lets her get four autos in the span of one and a half including the crit which attributes to her burst threat. Everything mechanic wise other than that is learning when to use your w(which is just experience), and orb walking to proc vitals(which fiora will basically force you to learn, so experience).

General gameplay stuff: fiora power comes when she can splitpush due to her sub optimal teamfighting(you just get chain cc'ed and killed against a grouped up team with decent cc.) So taking advantage of her being a 1v1 god is the best option(although there will be a time when you will be required to teamfight.) Make sure to ward up when you split though.

So the best place to start is to play her in a few normal blind picks(she will be banned alot in draft). It will be good for you in the future. Having to deal with darius top may act as a hyberbolic time chamber so even once she gets hit by the nerf bat a bit(she is a bit too good right now, though alot of it has to be with her basically being the first melee adc release(she basically is a new champ) since yasuo. So people are a bit wacked out on how to deal with it.

Zappakerz11/6/2015, 1:49:12 PM1 votes

Thanks for the great advice guys! I tried to start practicing some of the things mentioned last night in a bot match. Really appreciate the help!