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How Do I Practice vs Not-Yasuo?

Slimegoon·5/30/2017, 11:49:13 AM·19 votes·1,212 views

This is partially a serious question, partially highlighting a serious problem in the game right now. And before this starts, this isn't a "Yasuo OP" post, because I think he's pretty trash vs the right team and matchup. He's just a cancer on the game that needs to be dealt with.

How am I ever supposed to practice champions against match-ups other than Yasuo? Obviously in ranked I can ban him out, but I not going to practice champions in ranked. Normal Draft gives me the same option, but from experience, as soon as you ban Yasuo, someone on one of the teams dodges. This leaves me to practice in Normal Blinds, which I love since you see your counters randomly. But guess what? Yasuo was in over 50% of the Normal Blind games I've played over the past few days. Despite an average 50%+ ban rate across all skill levels and a top-10 ban rate in Diamond +, he's still within top 15 played champions for every skill level.

So how exactly am I supposed to get practice vs anyone except Yasuo? As long as you leave his kit the way it is(read: not nerf numbers, actually make changes) he's going to continue to be played at incredible rates. If I see him in half my normal games, that leaves me only the other half of my games to practice vs ton of other champs.

P.S. This might be the reason Yasuo's win rate is so low compared to how often he's played; it's not uncommon to see Mastery 7 Yasuo's with sub 48% win rates. Is it because their opponents ONLY get to practice vs Yasuo? Hmmmm.

Edit : I understand Normal Draft is an option. I've also had times where I've spent 20+ minutes trying to start a Normal Draft game, because someone always dodges when you ban their main.

20 Comments

Hyrum Graff5/30/2017, 1:58:19 PM13 votes

I find your "people always dodge when I ban yasuo" argument unconvincing. I ban him every time I have a ban, and don't percieve an unusual dodge rate.

Incidentally, I haven't had to play (with or) against yasuo more than a handful of times in the last 6 months

Tldr play normal draft, ban yasuo, great success.

PermabannedGaren5/30/2017, 2:02:26 PM6 votes

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This is partially a serious question, partially highlighting a serious problem in the game right now. And before this starts, this isn't a "Yasuo OP" post, because I think he's pretty trash vs the right team and matchup. He's just a cancer on the game that needs to be dealt with.

How am I ever supposed to practice champions against match-ups other than Yasuo? Obviously in ranked I can ban him out, but I not going to practice champions in ranked. Normal Draft gives me the same option, but from experience, as soon as you ban Yasuo, someone on one of the teams dodges. This leaves me to practice in Normal Blinds, which I love since you see your counters randomly. But guess what? Yasuo was in over 50% of the Normal Blind games I've played over the past few days. Despite an average 50%+ ban rate across all skill levels and a top-10 ban rate in Diamond +, he's still within top 15 played champions for every skill level.

So how exactly am I supposed to get practice vs anyone except Yasuo? As long as you leave his kit the way it is(read: not nerf numbers, actually make changes) he's going to continue to be played at incredible rates. If I see him in half my normal games, that leaves me only the other half of my games to practice vs ton of other champs.

P.S. This might be the reason Yasuo's win rate is so low compared to how often he's played; it's not uncommon to see Mastery 7 Yasuo's with sub 48% win rates. Is it because their opponents ONLY get to practice vs Yasuo? Hmmmm.

Edit : I understand Normal Draft is an option. I've also had times where I've spent 20+ minutes trying to start a Normal Draft game, because someone always dodges when you ban their main.

This kid actually thinks Yasuo being popular means there's something wrong with him lmao

Sraeg20135/30/2017, 1:55:05 PM4 votes

So how exactly am I supposed to get practice vs anyone except Yasuo? As long as you leave his kit the way it is(read: not nerf numbers, actually make changes) he's going to continue to be played at incredible rates.

Well, before Yasuo was Zed, before Zed was Kassadin and so on. There's always a number of champions that are played much much more than, say, anybody outside of Top 10.

This might be the reason Yasuo's win rate is so low compared to how often he's played; it's not uncommon to see Mastery 7 Yasuo's with sub 48% win rates. Is it because their opponents ONLY get to practice vs Yasuo? Hmmmm.

Imagine that.

When Yasuo was released I played as and against him in majority of my games to the point that I have zero problems laning and winning against him and at the same time I know his weaknesses so well, I have little reason to actually play him anymore.

Is it bad though?

I mean it's not like you will suddenly end up playing against Urgot in normals every other game. You aren't going to get much "practice" against non-FOTM champions in normals anyway.

SirTeemoMushroom5/30/2017, 12:09:31 PM3 votes

season 1-4 : teemo is cancer plz rito season 4-7 yasuo is cancer plz rito season 8+ : ???

Shadòw5/30/2017, 12:17:09 PM3 votes

Normal Draft is the only option.

I don't think that people who want to play Yasuo play Normal Draft because they are aware that he is basically permabanned.

FilDaFunk5/30/2017, 12:21:14 PM1 votes

Normal Draft is gonna be a good option once 10 bans begin. Yasuo mains will have no choice but to go on normal blinds.

Anubhav5/30/2017, 4:16:29 PM1 votes

I actually havent been against a yasuo in a really long time..

Tobias Brackner5/30/2017, 9:28:27 PM1 votes

I would be shocked if you aren't able to regularly play against non-Yasuo champions.

Doozku5/30/2017, 9:43:42 PM1 votes

I've never had a teammate dodge because someone banned Yasuo. In fact, Yasuo has been banned in 100% of my games. I don't even see him that much. It looks like you're just unlucky.