Yasuo Top is new OP? 56% Win Rate!

NotRevan·Aug 28, 2016·74 votes·4,099 views

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Tanky Yasuo top the New OP Patch 6.17 ?

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Malicious MetalAug 28, 201634 votes

Good. Maybe Riot will finally do something about it.

GULAG 4 UAug 28, 20161 votes

Well it's because of triforce into frozen mallet then GA is bullshiet really. I mean how many build paths in 3 items give ad, as, mr, armor and health?

Bladerunner7777Aug 28, 201614 votes

The surge in winrate is because of a bug fix. We saw the same thing with Azir + some QoL buffs

Imagine how strong Yasuo/Rengar would be if they didn't have ANY bugs

GULAG 4 UAug 28, 20161 votes

Well it only affects crits, so how come triforce tanksuo got a win rate jump?

CasterGilgameshAug 28, 20168 votes

well tanky yasuo can abuse item 3046 since he gets double the crit power it gives plus the passive alone making him even more tanky

GULAG 4 UAug 28, 20165 votes

Actually I know what's the problem. It's a new bug when they fixed a bug, when you yet you now perform an invisible auto attack. Source, Reddit yasuomains.

ZerenzaAug 28, 201610 votes

Well the build path definitely isn't helping, Tri-Force+Phantom Dancer+Frozen Mallet gives you Slows on every Auto, 12% resistance, Spellblade, Anti-Unit Collision, and a plethora of stats that just add up over time.

If you add in Bloodthirster, IE and Steraks (the full build) you get HUGE life steal, an amazing shield to buffer damage on top of your passive one. It makes him near unkillable, which was his only weakness, he was squishy and easy to kill. IE's passive also cover's his other weakness, 10% reduced damage on crit's, usually Yasuo's Crit's are 10% as effective but IE adds 50% more.

The final nail in the coffin is Yasuo's unhealthy kit, if at any time he gets ANY buffs he immediately becomes broken because his kit is infinitely better than any other champion in the game. He has everything and then some.

All of this is without taking into account Fervor which is a completely broken Mastery.

GULAG 4 UAug 28, 20164 votes

^^^

BobIIIAug 28, 20162 votes

Current data suggests that it's his frozen mallet tank build that is the most problematic and his standard crit build is relatively balanced. (Source: champion.gg, plat+ ranked games)

http://imgur.com/a/Sr5cr

GULAG 4 UAug 28, 20161 votes

Yeah. That's what I'm implying.

Great MutaAug 28, 20162 votes

The weekly balance changes updates might as well be called the "Yasuo and Ekko Memorial Balance Changes". These two are going to have balance problems until the end of time. They just have too many options and abilities.

KhaZixTheScytherAug 28, 20161 votes

actually one bug fix had been about how after using e autos sometimes wouldnt deal damage same with insta qs out of it.

SeenanAug 29, 20161 votes

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The surge in winrate is because of a bug fix. We saw the same thing with Azir + some QoL buffs

Imagine how strong Yasuo/Rengar would be if they didn't have ANY bugs

Don't forget Syndra.

ZNC FireAug 28, 20161 votes

To be fair i play yasuo top alot in ranked and i NEVER build tank and i do just fine

Synnx7Aug 28, 20162 votes

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Good. Maybe Riot will finally do something about it.

They wont. #toomuchfla$hyPay$

DunkinNoobsAug 28, 201611 votes

It appears to be due to a bug that came about because of his recent bugfix. Details here.

LevidocusAug 28, 201611 votes

"Troll mode activated" Don't touch Yasuo! Everything is OK :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEUujgaaXbw

BârdAug 28, 201611 votes

A: Not new, this has been a thing for months B: This isn't specific to Yasuo. Several champions have been abusing the shit out of the "bruiser items", and Riot just haven't addressed all of them yet. Tank Fiora was bullshit, tank Akali turned her into a different champion, Steraks on ADC's were annoying, and tank Ekko is their current focus. Yasuo will have his turn. Right about now, Riot is focused on the competitive scene for Worlds in the fall. They are curently trying to make sure we get more than 3 picks out of every role by nerfing team focused champs like Gnar, Shen, and Sivir.

PB4UAMEAug 28, 20167 votes

Actually, this is new. They patched a bug, which introduced a new bug the other way. Basically, before this most recent patch, Yasuo couldn't auto immediately after ulting if it was a crit (or something like that, I'm a bit iffy on the conditions required for the bug) now, in addition to getting that auto, he's been given the ability to instantly get another attack off while someone is knocked up, before he ults them (in addition to the one you could do before).

This means his combo went from E -> 3rd Q -> aa -> ult -> ~1second auto attack lockout, to E -> 3rd Q -> aa -> 2nd aa canceled by ult, so it goes off instantly -> ult -> aa

In the same period of time, he can now get 2 more auto attacks off. Its basically Riven before and after animation canceling, but slightly less extreme.

GayFluffyUnicornAug 28, 20164 votes

Okay so 99% of the playerbase has to suffer because worlds is at our doorstep? No that's not how it works. And it is not an excuse for delaying nerfs. Andthat's why i'm complaining about these "worlds patches" bcuz i can totally imagine riot stating somethign like this "sorry we can't fix yasuo, there is worlds we need to take care of".

BârdAug 28, 20161 votes

Actually, that is exactly how that works.

When Worlds is around the corner, Riot focuses their balancing on the highest levels of play.

Whether it is the correct course of action or not is a separate issue.

xScarfyAug 28, 20162 votes

And don't forget about tank Fizz!

SchàdenfreudeAug 28, 20165 votes

In EUNE or something he was at 62% winrate for one day 0_0

GULAG 4 UAug 28, 20163 votes

It's one day, not consistent statistics in the end. His bruiser build needs some serious gutting.

Lady HammerlockAug 28, 20162 votes

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It's one day, not consistent statistics in the end. His bruiser build needs some serious gutting.

Make ult armour pen only apply on crits,enough said

MaxDarkwillAug 28, 20161 votes

Are you joking ? In no way shape or form it solves the problem the guy has 100% crit chance

GULAG 4 UAug 28, 20163 votes

Because it's tanksuo the problem...

SchàdenfreudeAug 28, 20162 votes

It's not just tanksuo, even Yasuo with crit has winrates spiking too.

GULAG 4 UAug 28, 20161 votes

It's because of a bug in his ult actually. He's going to get disabled.

GayFluffyUnicornAug 28, 20163 votes

YEah except "tanksuo" can also have 100% crit. PD: 60%

Lady HammerlockAug 28, 20161 votes

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Are you joking ? In no way shape or form it solves the problem the guy has 100% crit chance

It atleast makes fighting tank yasuo as a tank bearable to add to that Yasuo already does mixed damage,even more mixed damage with grasp

GULAG 4 UAug 28, 20161 votes

People still take grasp on yasuo?

Lady HammerlockAug 28, 20162 votes

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People still take grasp on yasuo?

Considering the large amount of HP his bruiser build has,yes although i'd still probably take fervour

SSShutTheDuckUpAug 28, 20164 votes

It is not only tank Yasuo though. Check damage Yasuo winrates as well

GULAG 4 UAug 28, 20161 votes

It's a ult bug, enough with your whining about him.

LankPantsAug 28, 20164 votes

Does this mean we can finally deal with the cancer champ?

ZelnickAug 28, 20162 votes

Yas doing Yas things.

GULAG 4 UAug 28, 20162 votes

Guys, it's because of a new bug in his ult, when you use it it performs an invisible aa, that's why. :P

Creepy BubbleAug 28, 20162 votes

I have literally never won with a Yasuo top ever. I've attributed at least 40 losses to Yasuo top

BeMyFriendPleaseAug 28, 20162 votes

Mobility + low cds + easy resource mangement + free damage built in + free armor pen + free defensive cds + high utility

Oh lest we forget THE NEW AD ITEMIZATION

Gee. I wonder how this happened.

I really cannot FATHOM how a champion became strong with all these factors!

SOMEONE FILL ME IN HOW THIS HAPPENED? :)

Princess ÍncestAug 28, 20161 votes

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Mobility + low cds + easy resource mangement + free damage built in + free armor pen + free defensive cds + high utility

Oh lest we forget THE NEW AD ITEMIZATION

Gee. I wonder how this happened.

I really cannot FATHOM how a champion became strong with all these factors!

SOMEONE FILL ME IN HOW THIS HAPPENED? :)

Don't forget no mana.

TFBaamAug 28, 20162 votes

i hate it when someone copies someone else content. i mean, thats the exact name of redmercy's video, (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak01QczxAZ8) give credit where its due.

FantasySniperAug 29, 20162 votes

"New"?

Dominick DestineAug 29, 20162 votes

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"New"?

This.

Darth StepVaderAug 28, 20161 votes

I rape yasuo top with Nasus. It's so easy that it isn't even funny. Yasuo is still a better teamfighter but, having 700+ stacks in that 30 min teamfight doesn't hurt though.

ShifuneAug 28, 20161 votes

I can't be the only one who noticed that copypasta of Remercy's video title.

NightmareAmazoXAug 28, 20161 votes

That is because thanks to his bug fix riot did, Which was the most annoying frustrating bug ever on Yasuo who was released 3 years ago, AND NOW. They FINALLY DID IT. No big deal. Thanks to the bug fix. His actually being played at full potential.

Tea EnthusiastAug 29, 20161 votes

Riot has turned Ap mid assassin into Ad toplane tank (Ekko). How much can you mess up actually? Btw i agree that tank Yasuo is most likely a sure win even if the player is bad, that build just does insane damage and is unkillable.