Riot talk about diversity , but nerf fiddle e on minions so got nerfed if ur playing him in lane. By the way , fiddle is bad as a jungle right now in this meta and is x10 better mid or support. Just ... plz
Automated Riven3 votesThese changes are good for both jungle and support. Support fid doesn't want to do bonus damage to minions.
Jmman1 votesSO good his win rate mid is 48% now since the patch and jungle/support is 48%....
But hey its still early.... give it more time it can get worst.
Automated Riven1 votesSO good his win rate mid is 48% now since the patch and jungle/support is 48%....
But hey its still early.... give it more time it can get worst.
The reason fiddlesticks isn't good mid will take a shit ton more then numbers to fix. Unless you just break him so he has to be played in mid. But even then he will still be prioritized in jungle and support as he just functions better there. To many mid champs just beat him and the only way he could ever be viable mid is if he oneshot minions. I have played this game for like 7 years and never has he ever been a mid champion. He is a jungler primary and support secondary.
Barkley1 votesChampion.gg and Leagueofgraphs.com have both listed fiddle as top 5 or #1 win rate mid lane for several patches.
He does fantastic into melee matchups. Talon, fizz, zed, yasuo, katarina, galio... Fiddlesticks smashes them all.
Personally if I'm ever playing mid (I'm a jungler by trade) I always use Fiddles as my pocket pick into these sorts of matchups. Use E to clear waves, and if they ever try to trade with you, you just fear them and walk away.
If they farm, they get crow'd to death.
If they trade, they get feared.
If they all-in, they get feared, ignited, and drain tanked to death.
Great gank support
Game changing ultimate with limited income (jungle) is now even better with actual meaningful lane income (mid)
Easy to pressure enemy jungler @ buffs post 6.
Fiddle mid works just fine if you play him into the right matchups.
Automated Riven1 votesChampion.gg and Leagueofgraphs.com have both listed fiddle as top 5 or #1 win rate mid lane for several patches.
He does fantastic into melee matchups. Talon, fizz, zed, yasuo, katarina, galio... Fiddlesticks smashes them all.
Personally if I'm ever playing mid (I'm a jungler by trade) I always use Fiddles as my pocket pick into these sorts of matchups. Use E to clear waves, and if they ever try to trade with you, you just fear them and walk away.
If they farm, they get crow'd to death.
If they trade, they get feared.
If they all-in, they get feared, ignited, and drain tanked to death.
Great gank support
Game changing ultimate with limited income (jungle) is now even better with actual meaningful lane income (mid)
Easy to pressure enemy jungler @ buffs post 6.
Fiddle mid works just fine if you play him into the right matchups.
Mid fid works fine as a counterpick. And as for it being number one Winrate (I will check) but I am assuming that's with an extremely low pick rate or with numbers that were simply too strong. The problem with fid mid is that he offers almost nothing of use aside from damage. His cc is meh. Even champs he counters buy qss and still beat him unless they feed the hell out of him early. He is so squishy that he gets bursted through drain with any assassin. Using zhonyas doesn't really help as it also cancels drain. He can be a counterpick that simply falls off late game but honestly it's simply sub par to any meta champion and always will be unless he is broken in terms of damage.
Barkley1 votesOh for sure, I wouldn't go blind picking him in every game expecting to spam him to climb elo. I'm just saying he has his niche, and isn't completely worthless.
I am a firm believer that fiddlesticks is the absolute hardest counter to yasuo that exists in this game. Try it sometime. Hilarity ensues.
Automated Riven1 votesOh for sure, I wouldn't go blind picking him in every game expecting to spam him to climb elo. I'm just saying he has his niche, and isn't completely worthless.
I am a firm believer that fiddlesticks is the absolute hardest counter to yasuo that exists in this game. Try it sometime. Hilarity ensues.
Yi is funnier.
Divewing2 votesSupport fiddle doesnt care about this since he doesn't really cs anyway - if anything it enables him to use it more often without fear of screwing his ADCs farming.
Middlesticks 3rd on the list of ideal positions, so it's really not that high a priority.
These changes are good for jungle fiddle, which is where the vast majority of his play percentage comes from.
Jmman2 votesjungle play rate increase to 4 % since patch and now its still at 48% win rate. What a surprise not going to help and just nerfed mid.
Divewing1 votesYou're right, let's make him completely shitside broken in jungle and support so that you and OP can play him mid.
Y'know what, while we're at it, let's just make his ult instant cast, deal %max hp true damage, and have no cooldown.
Cos hey, there are 2 people on the planet who play mid fiddlesticks, and after the champion has sat in the SHITTER for god knows how long, and gets buffs to compliment his 2 MAIN PLAYSTYLES that don't translate to his TERTIARY PLAYSTYLE, then by god those 2 deserve to ruin the game for everyone else don't they?
Nyxissa1 votesThe problem is these changes hurt Fiddle more mid/late than early... He can spam E more in lane without hard pushing the lane for poke, which can be good. but without the bonus damage his later waveclear is pretty pathetic. Echo helps with the clearing, but unlike other mages he can't reliably proc Luden's where he wants... Oh and he still has mana issues, and his Dragon/Baron clears are still the same.
The Ult buffs are ok as long as you are not dependent on your Hourglass to do it, otherwise you don't care about the lower CD at later ranks.
Jobriq2 votesbuff FIddle's health ploz :^]
robotmaster1 votesOnly mid fiddle got nerf jg and sup got buff
Nyxissa1 votesEarly jungle Fiddle got buffed, late is kinda nerfed.
Pierce The Veal1 votesWhy did they have to nerf mid fiddle while at it I don’t understand.
paisy1 votesLane Fiddle is cancer
