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When will Riot nerf Trinity Force?

XRiverBandit··35 votes·10,861 views

You think I might be trolling. But I don't think a Garen/Nasus/Yorick/Irelia/Jax/Darius/Hecarim/Fiora who deal absolutely to no damage before it. Randomly after they buy it they can hit you ONCE whether with Jax W / Garen Q / Yorick Q / Heca E / Darius W / Fiora E / and from 100% hp you go to 50% even if you are one level ahead of them. I am aware it is the most expensive item in the game.But it makes brainless champs 10x times more overpowered and they are suppose to be. How about the disgusting SPELLBLADE passive gets nerfed to from 200% to 150% ? OR MAYBE 140? 125??????? Should I record how Garen Q halfs you ? I can do that too UNIQUE – SPELLBLADE: After using an ability, your next basic attack within 10 seconds deals 200% base AD bonus physical damage on-hit (1.5 second cooldown). I will literally pay money,to get this item nerfed. It's unhealthy. Why? Cuz a garen can go full tank after it ,and still do the same 1 Q and you're outtraded. Also no opinions from Irelia/Jax/Darius/Garen/Hecarim/Yorick/Fiora players are allowed .

EDIT: Also opinions from Nasus players are irrelevant

142 Comments

Sir Saltarin59 votes

What is this post lmao

Moody P44 votes

mid mains up to their nonsense again

5StackUltOneShot10 votes

[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U1gJ8N0E,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2019-05-11T09:51:13.325+0000)

mid mains up to their nonsense again

Why Moody, they deserve this much after all the hardships they face playing the shittiest class in the game. Mages are soooooo oppressed after all

HyperTechno1 votes

Yeah, yeah, blame it all on the mage players. Honestly, most mages that are viable in Solo Queue have some bullshit ability or play style, like Veigar passive and Ultimate or Vladimir in general.

Zoe, Syndra, Ryze, Azir, Anivia, and most other mages are god tear shit in solo queue, but good in team oriented teams. That why pro play has them running high.

Please try it for yourself. You will fine little success if you play high skill cap mages in Solo Queue, unless if you mastered them.

Do I agree with the post overall? Fuck no, I have mained top and Trinity is the least frustrating item. However, I do think some small tweaks are needed to stable out its overall versatility with most bruiser items, because the item combos you can accomplish are insane.

Thought most could be changed and I have not played this ridiculous game for more than 3 months.

whacker20004 votes

All those champs that you listed I have played in gold elo soloq (except for anivia) and I find them not difficult at all to carry and win. They are not shit unless mastered because I guarantee I am not a master with any of them as I am a top/jungle main. I would go so far as to say some of them are even easier then other normally seen solo q mid laners.

DeepFriedPengu3 votes

Hey hey hey. Dont throw my role into the mix of it. Tri Force is one of my favorite items while Lost Chapter is overloaded to shit IMO. This nonsense has nothing to do with my role friend. 😂

yay nibbers21 votes

People must be running out of things to mindlessly bitch about.

Morgan1eF4y3 votes

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Wùkong8 votes

{quoted}

Are you one of those guys who complains how op yi is then? Cuz he is dogshit, and it would be sad if you're negative IQ and think he is unbalanced. If you like getting unfairly outplayed by a fcking item then be my guest hardstuck silver

EUNE challenger is EUW Gold lol

Morgan1eF4y9 votes

Suuuure mate,enjoy getting stomped by the meme region NA then where TF Blade who can't even talk properly got rank 1 in EUW like it was tutorial

DanielxSenpaii3 votes

Imagine how fast he would do it in Eune then.. Those would be very few days in Eune huh?

L9 Nightmąre4 votes

Heaviest region to carry so far is EUW lmao, you cry babies got huge ego and think you're the big deal but in reality it's just a fantasy ;/ . Been breaking my back several times cuz the only thing you guys are better at from every single server is being toxic roflmao

yay nibbers8 votes

What the hell are you even on about lmao?

ADC Yuumi29 votes

Let me explain.

Darius is powerful with it. But Gangplank needs it.

It's the toplaner's infinity edge. It's core and it's pure damage they need.

Saevum20 votes

You are basically complaining about Spellblade more than the raw stats that it provides. No glossary from it's components, or anything.

I dont really think that you know what are you talking about. You know that trinity is a core item because it scales with its user right? You know that changing the item means a direct nerf to all its users alike right?

Nobody (sane) touches the trinity topic because is dense. It requires a large evaluation of every single champion that can make use of its components, buildpaths, and passive. Some like to build sheen first Nasus , while others phage Darius. The passive is a total cost build-up after grinding for the components.

I would consider a Stinger path change (because currently there is no trinity force user that would buy that first or second), but this thread is not even remotely close to that.

And who the heck upvotes this sht?

Shifted Society3 votes

Shaco gets item 3101 2nd item depending on if target is squishy and the extra attack speed would help two shot them. Heck, AD on-hit Teemo could also possibly build it to kite out with item 3057 if Teemo has item 3022 so I don't think item 3078 should get the nerf. If anything gets nerfed it should be Aatrox Darius Ezreal Gangplank Garen Gnar Hecarim Illaoi JarvanIV Jax Jhin Kled MasterYi Morgana Nasus Olaf Ornn Pantheon Poppy RekSai Renekton Sion Sylas Tryndamere Urgot Vayne Vladimir Warwick XinZhao Yasuo Yorick Zoe

Some listed above aren't even item 3078 users but are well deserved for nerfs. I'm looking at PBE patch notes until they get nerfed but until then I'm not playing this boring game.

Sebastit7d7 votes

I'm looking at PBE patch notes until they get nerfed but until then I'm not playing this boring game.

You legit complained about nothing related to triforce besides a troll Teemo build that doesn't evn work anymore. Also half the champions you're bitching about aren't even strong right now. I mean, ILLAOI? you actually have to be terrible at the game if you think Illaoi needs a nerf. She's like Darius but with absolutely none of the advantages Darius has.

Exzer0x2 votes

Lmao worse atleast Darius has a movement speed buff and a pull to land his q and heal... Illaoi hopes that the enemy is dumb enough to walk into her otherwise afk farms XD

Salty Mc Feed13 votes

I liked Trinity Force more when it had crit and AP and less attack speed/cdr, basically a luxurious over the top stat stick that you get when you had too much gold and they boosts most of the stats, even those you don't need. LMAO Now it's too much tailored for champions like Jax and Irelia who have great auto attack synergy but are also able to proc sheen consistently. For Garen, Hecarim, Fiora, Yorick, Nasus the item is not even that great, because these champions don't care about 40% attack speed. For comparison, in season 5 Tri Force had only 15% attack speed. Only Irelia and Jax get the maximum benefit and Darius to a certain extend because he indirectly benefits from the attack speed, but Darius feels very oppressive to play against regardless of Trinity Force.

iDarkWind11 votes

You're not considering that some of the stats that they pay for are wasted. The item isn't as strong as you think it is on them. The number one reason they build it is because item 3071 isn't very strong. The stats have been nerfed because of certain ADC's like MissFortune Lucian Ashe that would go for item 3153 + item 3071 and shred everything, from squishy's to tanks because they would stack item 3071 very fast. Even the components to build the item were targeted, and the build path for item 3071 is incredibly bad compared to the previous one that was item 3044 + item 3133 .

The problem you have with most bruisers building item 3078 could be fixed by making item 3071 meele only and buff his stats to previous states that it was, this way this would prevent ADC's from abusing the it, while making it back to core builds on most Bruisers as it should be.

Thefrostyviking11 votes

......Man.

Hyperbole less would ya?

50% health lost from say one jax W even if you are one level ahead of him?

Why not mention that he also went Q-AA(with ult passive ready)-W so he actually hit you 3 times....or 4 depending on perspective, while you call it one attack?

Fiora?Q(hit vital)-AA-E-Q(another vital).

Garen? Q at lvl 10 does 150 base bonus damage + 40% bonus AD.

Base AD =100 =trinity damage = 200.

40 AD from runes+trintity? I dunno really.........16 for Q?

140+150+16+200 = 506.

Grasp of the undying = 4% of your max health bonus magic damage for 1 hit = Garen would have about 1600 at that level = 64.

Average melee armor at 10 = 60 = 40% damage reduction.

Magic resist = 40 = 30% damage reduction = grasp does 44

506 x 0,6 = 303 =AD damage +grasp 44 = 347 total.

Average melee health at 10 = 1400 to 1600 depending on runes and items.

347 = approximately 25% of 1400.

Is it high? Yes.

OP, are you exaggerating to the high heavens? Yes, you are.

Its fine to be frustrated but keep yourself in the realm of reason.

##TL:DR

Garen Q at lvl 10 with trinity and grasp of the undying does about 28*% of someone´s max health, not 50%, OP is using hyperbole.

Sebastit7d7 votes

Don't even bother, for all we know he builds the same items every game or goes some troll shit top like AD nami and comes to complain here about dumb things.

Mister BirdDaddy3 votes

Math +1

JuiceBoxP9 votes

It's not the item, it's the champions you mentioned that are strong. Alot of champions use sheen and it's not unbalanced

Chembaron Yamada8 votes

Also no opinions from Irelia/Jax/Darius/Garen/Hecarim/Yorick players is allowed .

I am a Camille player: Don't you dare nerfing Trinity Force, I need it for the Q2s.

Deireadh14 votes

Buy Blackcleaver then. Not a imbalanced item

nelogis9 votes

Black Cleaver is a straight up dog shit item

You only buy this thing if you have absolutely no other thing to buy as a bruiser, Darius stopped buying it Garen stopped buying it. It's mega trash, you need to give it a melee only bonus if you want stuff like Camille to buy it.

boricCentaur18 votes

Yes and out of those champions you listed how many are good 2 maybe 3. Like garen should only build it in a few match ups since it's not that good on him.

Like if your getting out traded by ANY of those champions with only triforce and full tank your playing wrong or playing a champion that should lose the trade.

Tiltet R I V E N9 votes

As a jungler I literally gank a fkcing yorick and he is BEHIND. like he is 0/2 but he has trinity. Im a level above him as it's mentioned above and he used 3 Q's and im dead. Ofcourse I tried running away but he also gets Phage passive. So he can chase me :))) Especially if im an immobile jungler.

Moonscourge17 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tiltet R I V E N,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U1gJ8N0E,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-05-11T09:33:14.818+0000)

As a jungler I literally gank a fkcing yorick and he is BEHIND. like he is 0/2 but he has trinity. Im a level above him as it's mentioned above and he used 3 Q's and im dead. Ofcourse I tried running away but he also gets Phage passive. So he can chase me :))) Especially if im an immobile jungler.

That's your own fault for not respecting his power spikes or not playing better. When you're already ahead you shouldn't try to 1v1 the enemy 24/7, you should try to win.

Shifted Society3 votes

No champions ever should have a 1 item power spike. Period.

SusanWojcicki7 votes

This is the dumbest comment I have ever seen.

Buying items shouldn't make you stronger guys. Nerf every item.

boricCentaur113 votes

Ok no this did not happen and you know it.

One: for yorick to get off 3 qs that means the fight has been going for a minimum of around 10 seconds which is actually a long time for a fight at that point in a game and that is only if you 1v1ed him but you said ganked meaning it's a 2v1 so it's much longer so your clearly lying since fights don't go on that long.

Two: Did you 1v1 him as fucking nunu? Like being a level up from a top laner is means your ahead a lot so yeah this did not happen.

Shifted Society2 votes

{quoted}

Ok no this did not happen and you know it.

One: for yorick to get off 3 qs that means the fight has been going for a minimum of around 10 seconds which is actually a long time for a fight at that point in a game and that is only if you 1v1ed him but you said ganked meaning it's a 2v1 so it's much longer so your clearly lying since fights don't go on that long.

Two: Did you 1v1 him as fucking nunu? Like being a level up from a top laner is means your ahead a lot so yeah this did not happen.

lol Yorick can use W you're stuck there for however slow you auto attack so that being said Yorick can 2 shot you before his pesky wall of souls is up let alone his Maiden saps your soul.

Poetguy785 votes

[{quoted}](name=Duelist Sagiri,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U1gJ8N0E,comment-id=0005000000010000,timestamp=2019-05-11T12:07:09.650+0000)

lol Yorick can use W you're stuck there for however slow you auto attack so that being said Yorick can 2 shot you before his pesky wall of souls is up let alone his Maiden saps your soul.

It goes away after 4 seconds. It lasts less than two Yorick Qs at max rank with max cooldown.

MrABomb4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Tiltet R I V E N,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U1gJ8N0E,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-05-11T09:33:14.818+0000)

As a jungler I literally gank a fkcing yorick and he is BEHIND. like he is 0/2 but he has trinity. Im a level above him as it's mentioned above and he used 3 Q's and im dead. Ofcourse I tried running away but he also gets Phage passive. So he can chase me :))) Especially if im an immobile jungler.

Then learn to gank?

Hold Ma Baguette8 votes

From all the broken shit that there is in the toplane, you're asking Tri force of all things to be nerfed? I don't even know if you're joking but I really hope you are.

Beacon Academy8 votes

Usually I agree with imbalance complaints on the boards...

But sorry... I can't get on board with this one.

Because like you said: its fucking expensive.

That is well over 3k they have to invest while not buying defensive items

Toxic Doku River7 votes

I'm guessing you got shit on by a fed champion using trinity force and is now making a dumb post about nerfing an item? Also would like to point out that riven is still the best top lane out of all the champions you named and she doesn't even build that op item.

Tarbal817 votes

LMAO I logged in just to downvote this.summoner 13

kingDeDeDarius7 votes

Lol what a shitpost

xDogMeatx6 votes

It's pretty much a BASE damage only that gets critted.

Shifted Society4 votes

What crit? They removed item 3086 for item 3101 ?

xDogMeatx4 votes

i said its BASICALLY a crit that is only effected around BASE AD stat damage at a 1.5 cooldown. i didnt say ITS A AUTO CRIT on added AD. seriously the downvote was unnecessary.

HolyGeek5 votes

Stop crying Grow up Get better Accept the item and move on This is how to enjoy league Kid

XANNY PHANTOM4 votes

Trinity is very strong but at all points of building it you are squishy and even after completing it you die very easily. Trinity is very strong but it's coat keeps u at a very low hp state for most the early game unless you are extremely feed.

MikuClaudiu213 votes

The problem with garen its not his q, its grasp and his e but you do you

pickcollins2 votes

Camille main here: do not nerf tri force just bc of champs who abuse it

DiscWizard12 votes

3733 gold. It's literally the most expensive item with some of the worst items that it builds from. Maybe you could complain if it was like kindlegem sheen and recurve bow that it built from. But phage and stinger are two of the worst items stat wise and sheen is only good situationally. What would you prefer. They are stronger early then weaker upon finishing the MOST EXPENSIVE ITEM IN THE GAME.

DeepFriedPengu2 votes

Let's see.. most expensive item in the game giving you a really good power spike? I mean, that's the whole point of an expensive item.

Jax probably had his ult passive stacked and W maxed, Garen sacrificed wave clear and useless 250 mana from the item, Yorick LITERALLY has one way to relyably deal damage without his ultimate, Hec probably had his E fully charged and hit you with his Q at the same time and had ghost on plus chilling smite, Darius is meant to do damage (that's all he fucking is and still hes meh half the time) plus he only goes Tri when ahead and Fiora is literally all auto attacks and her passive so of course she can use the item well.

On all accounts there is a justifiable reason why the item half health you even though it wasnt just the item. Please do more research making a post about it. 😂

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