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Laners taking jg camps

Tenarin··1 votes·1,509 views

Since Riot wants to keep screwing junglers over on literally every patch since season 3 or 4, and they even seem to have a problem with junglers taking lane cs, why don't you punish laners for taking our camps? I just lost a game because I had the worst ashe in the world and she kept taking my jg camps and cut me off completely. I was like 7/1/6 with decent cs, TRYING to get S rank for a chest on nocturne when this ashe started taking every single camp, then running it down mid and dying. Not only did I end up with an A+ because I died a couple of times out searching for cs and over-extending just to get a few cs, but we went on to lose a game which I was on the fast track to winning.

Maybe stop trying to help laners and screw junglers over and make it so someone has to have smite to hit jg camps? Or go a stop further and make it so that without smite, they can only take enemy camps? Then people wouldn't be stealing blue/red all the time as well.

Edit: Before the trolls start in, yes it's my own fault for 2 of my deaths being from overextending, but I was basically left with a choice, get 0 cs and don't get S rank, or overextend for cs. So in other words a teammate literally made it logically impossible for me to get S rank, all because laners can take the junglers camps all day long.

4 Comments

Fuhrer Usagi1 votes

Pretty sure vision score and objective taking matters more for the rank than cs in terms of jglers.

Honestly I sometimes take a camp or two. Usually as lane tax when the jg afk farms and doesnt gank anyone lane or do any objectives. With those mobs dead either they end up forced to go help someone since they have nothing to farm. Or they don't and I get extra exp and gold to actually use to try and contest dragon/herald.

Tenarin1 votes

True, but this isn't the best logic. As a jungler I get games where "helping" someone means going to their lane and dying with them, creating an inevitable snowball effect. At least when their team is getting destroyed they can keep up in gold and maybe make plays with favorable numbers, or actually land a kill when they catch someone out.

I had a game just like that right before I posted this. I was avoiding my laners like the plague because they were fucking awful. Straight up stomp each one of them. BUT I was winning jg...I had like 3 levels on them and was counter jungling like crazy and keeping them from getting strong. I was slowly building up my kills getting strong in an environment where it's VERY difficult to get strong. Then my adc starts taking camps, then running down mid and dying.

When I counter jg I do it in a very intelligent way. I only do it when I know where the enemy jg is. When I no longer had camps, and the lanes were like walking into certain death, I was forced to either:

a) counter jg in a very sloppy/dangerous manner b) go feed the laners along with my teammates c) just stand in base and do nothing

I chose the best option which was counter jg without knowledge of where enemy jg was. Sure enough I run into them, they cc me, so I start stomping them and 2 of their laners come rolling in like overly aware players they are (my team had 0 awareness so not a surprise that the enemy team got the people who actually used their map). Now a 7/2 jungler starts feeding that shutdown gold to the enemy team. Game over. That's game. Right there. The end. That Ashe just handed her only good teammate over on a silver platter.

Fuhrer Usagi1 votes

When I mean afk jg farms i mean 15 minutes in they're 0/0/0 with like 50 cs with either 1 or 0 vision score and 0 champion damage done and the enemy jg is 4/1/3 with 62 Cs 1 dragon and a rift herald under his belt.

At that point they're pretty much not even playing the same game and their buffs would be useful elsewhere. I can get wanting to farm and I don't consider counter jg as afking. I consider afk jging when someone plays like xin or another early game jg and afks like they season 6-7 YI and does not ever leave their jg for any reason no matter what.

Tr4shB4NSYST3M1 votes

You can take my raptors/wolves, and heck if youre carrying you can even have red or blue, But rito still has a lot of xp in gromp/krugs so I NEED THOSE if im gonna stay relevant.

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