Jungle Nerfed a bit too hard, needs xp back

IloveIsa7·11/24/2019, 3:32:49 PM·23 votes·10,009 views

It sucked last year when they nerfed jungle.. but getting nerfed again seems a bit unfair.

Especially squishy Junglers like khazix that have a bit of trouble ganking pre-6, I feel a little useless especially early game considering nerfs on camps xp. I don't even get lvl 3 with red buff and raptors and krugs anymore unless I kill all the baby krugs wasting like 15 seconds. And worst of all you can't even gank mid lane or top because they will be lvl 6-7 when you are level 4 and you will actually die to the minion wave before you even get in range to gank them. Worst of all, in the scenario you get invaded and die or die ganking or just lose a few camps you will be useless the entire game because you'll be so far behind. I feel like without playing champs like hecarim or Warwick nunu or yi with 1000000 Ms and ganking lanes every 5 seconds it's impossible to get ahead as a jgl.

Now on the other hand,

I had a game on my euw acct the other day where I was like 12-1 with 150cs in 20minutes.. I stole a ton of enemy camps and got herald twice and dragon twice but I was still the same level as my midlaner with 90cs and 4/3kda.

So I just think it's a little bit unfair that even when playing amazing as jgl I can't even get level advantage anymore and will be stuck feeling like a support champion being 2-3 levels behind pretty much all the time.

It makes the jungle role just less desirable, mid and top seem more fun in the current patch but there's something special about jungle and I'd like to not see it be run into the ground and get nerfed even more.

39 Comments

Anime Fizz11/24/2019, 6:14:16 PM9 votes

The jungle wasant even nerfed, now you get more exp if you actually farm and stop braindead camping lanes.

Jg right now is the most important role in the game because how important drags are now.

So you're just bad at the game if you think jungle is weak, stop camping top (or any lane really) and farm up and go for drags and you'll win 10 times more games, the meta changed adapt to it instead of crying.

Laura ß11/24/2019, 6:27:09 PM8 votes

Get junglers to actually jungle and they cry lol its no surprise why they are the most hated players

BigFBear11/24/2019, 6:43:12 PM8 votes

Kha is still top Tier Jungler. He is top 3 together with Ekko.

DatPolak11/24/2019, 3:55:55 PM8 votes

they gutted us man 0/5/0 teemo with 65 cs had 2 levels up on me when i was 2/1/4 with 104cs how can i carry an inting teemo when im 2 levels down but playing 10 times better than him. theres no reward for playing jg anymore duo top will get you the same xp and probably win you games alot more easily.

Yenn11/24/2019, 9:33:11 PM7 votes

'Guise, you just have to power farm to stay even with a passive solo lane!!!'

Now what happens if one of the enemy solo lanes is getting kills? What if your mid or top lane is hard countered? What if top lane has a scaling champion whose only counterplay is to shut them down early?

Power farming while the Camille in top lane snowballs to 10-0 because you can't pressure her or you risk falling permanently behind is not how you win games.

Toxic Teeto11/24/2019, 7:30:31 PM5 votes

When did they nerf jungle? They solo carried games last season constantly.

Fuck the jungle, let it rot for a while

hazerddex11/24/2019, 4:39:55 PM4 votes

its because they want jungles to focus jungle objectives like rift herald and dragons.

Support Position11/24/2019, 7:47:57 PM3 votes

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Just a question, are you killing your krugs? As they are the best non buff exp in the game other than gromp.

You HAVE to protect Gromp, Krugs and raptors. Other than your buffs. Ward up. Its not exp that sucks. Its the fact that SPECIFIC champions are good.

Khazix Rengar Jax Kayn LeeSin Nocturne Nunu Skarner (With pillar) Tryndamere Trundle XinZhao Warwick Volibear Udyr

Now a days you HAVE to play things that YOU can 1v1 enemy junglers.

Zac Rammus (some situations.) Evelynn Gragas Graves (kind of) Fiddlesticks Amumu things like this YOU CANNOT play anymore. At all. Period. You're too exp and gold dependant. You at level 1. NEED to be able to fight an enemy jungler and win.

That's this meta for the junglers. Staying IN their jungle. Basically not ganking unless its 100% FOR SURE. A kill. Or a flash for a guaranteed kill next time. It's "unfortunate" but its the new meta.

Ivern Unless your this. Then you know what? You can do whatever the fuck you want cause you'll just take it anyway.

As I stated in a different post. Exp doesnt suck. It's the fact you **HAVE ** to finally stay in your damn jungle for once. Instead of ganking. Lane crys about you not ganking. Full mute.

Drake is more important than you Red / Blue. Rift is after your red blue. Obviously Baron is > ALL your jungle.

~~But I'm sure most people know that ~~

PalPlays11/25/2019, 4:22:40 AM2 votes

It makes the jungle role just less desirable, mid and top seem more fun in the current patch but there's something special about jungle and I'd like to not see it be run into the ground and get nerfed even more.

Honestly? This is the most convincing argument you made, and I was convinced by everything you said!

NerfMIDLANERS011/25/2019, 1:25:44 PM2 votes

Finally Junglers got nerfs they deserved .Got tired of all this lane camping in season 9 now they are being punished for doing it

RekSai CoffeeCo11/25/2019, 2:46:39 PM2 votes

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Finally Junglers got nerfs they deserved .Got tired of all this lane camping in season 9 now they are being punished for doing it

As a top main i like the most of the changes, finally i can have some impact on the game

One of those top lane trolls who probally supported scuttle changes of season 8 "mini objective for esports" so you could "1 vs 1".

BlackXIV11/24/2019, 9:18:57 PM1 votes

The gold and exp you can get from powerfarming has increased from S9 ok, but the overall available gold/exp across the map is actually decreased. That's caused by the fact that you simply do not have enough time to gank, soak minionwaves while your laner recalls, invade or going for objectives without wasting your own jungle timers. So no, you cannot get ahead and you cannot pressure the map without falling behind.