Malefic Visions - Intended interaction with death passives?

ClamFaced··46 votes·3,212 views

Basically, Malzahar's E is not bouncing if it "kills" a champion who has a "I'm not dead yet!" passive. So far I've noticed it with Karthus, Zyra and Kog'Maw. I know the game doesn't recognise these characters as dead until their respective passives have been used, but it's a bit naff getting a kill in a teamfight and not have the space aids bounce around because one of these champions happened to be in the game.

Fix pls?

11 Comments

Sailor Mint5 votes

That's how all reseting abilities work.

SecretAgentHulk4 votes

Should it be?

Old Man Teeto8 votes

If Kha'zix kills Sion and puts him into his death status, he gets his reset on the kill not when the passive ends.

Malzahar E fizzling likely has something to do with why the bug of DoT's "double killing" these champions.

(Infamous is Brand passive getting a double kill on Karthus or Kog'maw) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77dVQUV2akk

Jungle Lux God7 votes

I think that is something specific to Sion, as the other champs with on-death passives have deaths that are not triggered until the on-death passive ends, while Sion's ends when he initially dies. This is evident with his death timers: the others start when they die after passive, while Sion's death timer starts when he initially dies and applies his passive. If you die at level 1, try to farm some minions or attack enemy champs, then see your death timer. You are dead for, like, 1 second, and then you respawn.

Solidair35 votes

I bet this is unintentional, probably just an oversight or an old tech limitation

Wheatloaf5 votes

They've fixed stuff like this before. Getting it attention like this will hopefully bring us a fix.

pro crastinat0r6 votes

They've fixed stuff like this before... on new champs. GL getting their attention to help out the museum piece called Malzahar.

Wheatloaf1 votes

He's had an update to his Voidling AI along with some QoL changes for his Q and Ult within about the last year; they know he's here.

RiotMeddler5 votes

The failure to bounce there is not working as intended, thanks for pointing that out. We'll look into that one, at a guess it's probably just an oversight we can now correct. Back in the day when Malzahar was created by contrast we didn't have many options for interacting with zombie states (champs that are dead, but still able to do stuff temporarily).

Gear Kitty1 votes

It pleases me that you guys call it the Zombie state.

pro crastinat0r1 votes

They've fixed stuff like this before... on new champs. GL getting their attention to help out the museum piece called Malzahar.

Thank you for proving me wrong. Maybe.... riot does care???????

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