Just because a pro plays it

ARIZONA NA··3 votes·958 views

Doesn't fucking mean you should.

Ever since Morgana and Lux have been inserted to bot lane as a support along with a few others that originate from another lane, everyone has forgotten the traditional supports i.e. Leona, Sona, Janna, Blitz and the never seen(at least for me) Taric(As well as more). I'm soo sick of everyone playing these champs that do not belong in bot lane as support. It always always always always always turns out worse than it would with traditional bot support.

All they do:

  1. Buy AP items
  2. Use AP runes/Masteries
  3. End up getting kills from use of 1, and 2 4, Have no sustain in lane
  4. Have no peel for adc since they cant do handle more than 1 champ
  5. Never buy wards/sightstone
  6. End up feeding

For Morgana: Her stun is good if landed. But her shield in bot lane is absolutely useless. Yes you take some magic damage from the support but the damage is coming from the enemy adc so her spell shield is pointless. Her pool pushes lane and ends up being the ks later in lane since they only build AP items. Her ult... well i never see a morg ult since she's been dead most the game.

For Lux: Her stun is good is landed. Her slow is helpful when you finally fight but as harass is easily dodged and pushes lane. Her shield helps if they even level the dam thing but thats not what a support Lux would do. Her ult.. Well she only uses its last to secure kills that would be given to the adc if used otherwise.

For Annie: Her first is good harass but pointless since shes already out of mana to stun anything. Her second pushes lanes if used. Her third isn't helpful. Her ult is great when up and stun ready. But thats at level 6. And she's already fed a few kills to the enemy adc/support.

I could go on with the whole list but you'll never make it that far without backspacing out of this. All im saying is to stop playing the mid champ supports. They were made for mid and others. Thats it. Just because some pro played them in a tournament or streamed it online doesn't mean you can do it too with the same outcome. And to all you who dont own the traditional supports, buy them. Practice with them. Be a good support. Dont be like every person who thinks they are the best in their bracket because they watch twitch streams and pay for the summoner icons with mommies wallet money.

Thank and you.

14 Comments

Grashnim4 votes

Less QQ more Pew Pew Mr ADC.

ARIZONA NA1 votes

I've done a lot of "Pew Pew" Its about time i "QQ" for a bit

Drakzul the Dark3 votes

Don't tell other people how to play if you don't even know what you're talking about.

ARIZONA NA1 votes

I absolutely know what im talking about. Keep going on with you terrible choices in game.

Knight SoIaire 2 votes

what is a support a mage with utility it can be a very tanky meele mage but its still a mage with utility (they scale off ap)

what is lux and morgana, a mage with utility and good scalings

why are people playing them ower other suports, becuase profit thats why they were played by the pros in the first place

ARIZONA NA1 votes

A support is someone who doesn't give up kills to the enemy team in lane phase. A support is someone who doesn't scale AP to take kills. A support is someone who isn't playing a mid champ. How simple is that to get? The answer is "Very"

Knight SoIaire 2 votes

ahahahahhaha

thats like saying that a motorcycle isnt a vehicle because it has only 2 wheels

sorry mate but all that you can say is that support is hte guy who helps the adc the rest is not important a mage with utility and good scalings just works better than a mage with comparable utility and no scalings

Nameless Voice1 votes

A support is someone who supports their team. They generally avoid taking cs, and buy gold generation items to free up a gold stream for the ADC. They are also expected to place more wards than other roles.

Not dying during the laning phase? That's ideal behaviour for any player in any lane, but it has nothing to do with being a support. In fact, supports are often expected to give up their lives if it will save their ADC's life in exchange. Not scaling with AP? Most supports scale with AP, since they are mages. AP gives them more damage, but also more heals, more shields, more speed boosts, and in general more utility. Not taking kills? Sometimes, but only if they are 100% certain that someone else will kill the enemy. Otherwise, of course they are supposed to kill enemies in fights. It's always better to have the kill on the support than to have the enemy escape, to have someone die before they do, or to have no one get the assist gold.

Erockandroll1 votes

um, yes and no.

It's bad Just to take a champ for the sake that the pros do it. however, the pro scene is a good source of inspiration, and and can be used if you know why their good. And a part of that includes knowing the difference between a champions lane build and their support build. (as well as knowing how the lane and support builds help the team)

I do build some AP on my supports that scale with AP. Though many of those items also helps with mana and CDR. (Morello's, Censor, etc) The trick is always to understand "What Item will make you better at supporting your team?" This could be a utility item. (sight stone is obvious) it could also be a tank item or even an AP item.

Some Supports can poke an harass, and could turn into an APC if they get enough gold (unlikely with support gold) I do this sometimes only if a) my ADC fcks up, and I need mage items to maintain lane. or b) everyone else on my team mindlessly chases for kills and I have to manage the minion waves creeping up on our turrets.

Xinotine1 votes

Its not like every champion should have only one lane they can go to. Sure, if mage supports do it like you described, yeah. They are bad. If one does it well, however, it can work out wonders. Its all situational.

Need harass, good disengage and way to secure some kills? Go Zyra. About to be harassed to death by enemy Karma? Morgana. Need great kill potential and some pressure to lane? Annie.

... These are all solid picks when player is really up to being a support, not APC lost in botlane.

insaiyanbacca1 votes

well, morg's shield doesnt just block magic damage it blocks cc, so i guess it could i dont know be used on the adc to keep them from getting locked down

Lord Dusteon1 votes

Really? Morgana has a W that does around 12 damage per second at level 1 but almost instantly procs all spellthief charges, letting you not push the lane (because you aren't bad and don't put it on the minions) while getting easy gold and harass. Her Q is a MASSIVE root that lets you take at least half an enemies health if landed if not outright kill them, and her E PROVIDES CC IMMUNITY. I cannot overstate that enough, as most bot lane trades are short, lasting from 1-5 seconds usually. Suddenly being CC'd for 2 seconds can be fatal, and being CC immune (while blocking some of the harass and damage they did!) can easily make you win trades. Finally, her ultimate is EXTREMELY powerful, as it's an AoE slow that turns into a stun, forcing enemies to flash or die.

I'm going to stop before I end up explaining every mages kit and trying to point out why it works bot to you. But seriously, almost all your problems seem to be "wow this player is bad" and "wow im adc you dont get kills you stupid support". If you can't understand why an instant long range AoE stun with massive damage and zoning (Annie) is good you should reevaluate, and if you can't understand how having a champion with high bases and CC going bot to bully and kill the enemy laners is good (literally every mage) you seriously need to take some time out and try them. Yes, they don't have sustain or great defensive capabilities, so you'll have to try and stop making stupid mistakes as an adc. They also have extremely high damage and great CC of their own, meaning you can punish any mistakes opponents have harder and have much higher kill pressure (and easier farming, since the enemy bot lane should be scared of the damage you and the support have).

50Shades of Wade1 votes

Always a nice chuckle when an ADC main goes on a bitching spree about the supports that likely carry harder than he does.

Not only is this guy completely clueless, but he's also stuck on himself.

Sounds about right.

Kendra1 votes

Breaking news Morgana has no peel for adc gg

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