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Diana R-Q Combo

DilaxTV··1 votes·3,148 views
Richie Pascoletti on Twitter

Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,

This is about Dianas R-Q(-R) combo. It is NOT about Dianas Q-R-(R) combo - please read into. As I already twittered @RiotSupport, they adviced me to address the issue at the Gameplay Board. You are able to follow my initial tweet(s) in the link attached to this thread.

Yet, let me clarify the issue. I am for most parts of the year an high Masters EUW player since 2015. I mention that, as I feel it is an indicator that I understand League of Legends and its mechanics fairly well. I understand, that it takes time to master a champion. I do get, that there are champions, that need a player to put more effort into, mostly mechanically, to have greater success. The tradeoff mostly is, that the learning curve is higher, means it takes longer to learn a champion and all its mechanics, but once mastered, that champion will grant a player a larger variety of gameplay options - at the end an higher elo (we could go into detail here, but that is the short explaination). So what about Diana? Diana has multiple combinations in her kit. Most of us know, that she is granted an Ultimate (R) reset, once she lands her Moonsilver Blade (Q) on a target, and Rs on that same target afterwards. She also does have some interactions with E - R or E- Flash, active items and a lot of more combos. But that is not what this is about.

The main issue is, that Diana has one mechanic, the R - Q (-R) Combo. You have to stay EXACTLY on the maximum range of your R to a target, then cast R - press Q right afterwards and it will cast the Q at the end of the R animation. You are granted a R reset. If you do not stand on that one small spot of the R max range to a target, the animation of RQ still looks similar, but you won`t receive an R reset. You may think "aight bro, just go and l2p Diana". But in fact, even SDiana2, after playing nearly 10.000 Games of Diana, Challenger NA OTP, can NOT guarentee a 100% hitrate. Yes, he will most likely make that combo work 9/10 times after such an great amount of effort into Diana only gameplay, but yet not 100% accurate. For me, it feels unsatisfying to be aware, that the champion I am learning has a mechanic, that I will not be able to make use of, nor being able to train as the risk of failing it is too high. As I said: i do like to put effort into mechanics in order to master them, but this does not seem to be worth. Is there a way, to increase the accuracy/ reliabilty of this combination while not making it too simple, but also not as difficult as its current state?

PS: I am not a native English speaker, apologies for spelling mistakes/ grammatics.

Kind reagards Saizõ

8 Comments

Stray Kat2 votes

I landed my first ever(In PvP anyway) R>Q>R combo yesterday, In a losing game. I was so proud of it lol.

Edit: Keeping in mind, this is after 4ish seasons of one tricking Diana either on this account or an old alternate.

Zechmeister1 votes

You mean Q(R)(R)???? u have to land lunar first in order to recast R. Personally i have 6000 aram games and about 6000 3v3 games played maybe 2000 5v5s

Diana if u hit her first Q just R her instantly get free R again and either choose to wait for cdr on q for another free ult or just do the 2 ult burst combo. Normally they wont live if u land 2 R's unless tank. Now with new dark harvest = broke probably try it let me know. With new DH should be able to Q until low hp then R while they have light and repeat R and e w easily should be at 25-50% hp if not dead.

ModDaenrysTargaryen1 votes

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You mean Q(R)(R)???? u have to land lunar first in order to recast R. Personally i have 6000 aram games and about 6000 3v3 games played maybe 2000 5v5s

Diana if u hit her first Q just R her instantly get free R again and either choose to wait for cdr on q for another free ult or just do the 2 ult burst combo. Normally they wont live if u land 2 R's unless tank. Now with new dark harvest = broke probably try it let me know. With new DH should be able to Q until low hp then R while they have light and repeat R and e w easily should be at 25-50% hp if not dead.

Q R R is an easy combo to use, he is talking about the R Q R combo, like he said you have to do it right at the start of the r range, that being said I always thought the Q wait a bit, R Q then R R is always a good damage, that being said it is over time and you need high cooldown to do that well

Zechmeister1 votes

Oh gotcha!!!!! uhm maybe while your trying to make use of the QRQ try getting 2 aa's on minions so u have ur third hit passive ready so u can R (Q) (AA) R but make sure ur autos ready to proc the bonus dmg . might make up for messing combo up if you need practice.. if not idk just practice on some dummys until you master the range. But i think if u add that aa proc itll maximize ur dmg potential. AA either before or after q depending if u can get it off before or not if not just try after your Q reaches him for reset.

Im only Plat 3 hardstuck EUW havnt played euw in a bit. NA haven't even tried yet ranking much. More so in getting every champion mastery lvl 5 since im a completionist. Usually i try to learn most mechanics just so i can match myself accordingly. This diana 1 i think i learned a few seasons back but forgot about it which is why i forgot u can r before q. But adding ur aa passive might be something you want to do. Seems like would help manage mistakes taken for going in.Somehow u want to implement ur slow either right away or as a way to slow them from escaping.

DilaxTV1 votes

No, it is about the combo R-Q. As mentioned above, you start with your R, then cast Q. It ONLY does work, if you are on the EXACT max range of Dianas R. Otherwhise, the Q, which you cast directly after your initial R, won`t grant you a R reset. Benefits of R-Q: less reaction time than Q-R, interesing mechanic to learn (if easier), as it increases the options Diana does have Defecits of R-Q: if the enemy does flash the R-Q, you do not get a reset, as well as missing out in R,Q and potentially a 2nd R damage.

Zechmeister1 votes

Gotcha replied on other dudes post sorry for not paying attention at first.

Maybe implement her auto attack passive mechanic into your combo before you go in. But like you said if they flash out it nullifys her main mechanic.

:::: or what if u set aa q r in reset r then reset ur aa again for a sucesfull execute on ur next RQR but only rq(aa)r at 70%ish hp that way u have a chance at bursting without them adjusting to the situation.

DilaxTV1 votes

I feel that you do not get the point. I am fully aware of how Diana combos work. I tried to explain it another time. It is about the R-Q(-R) Combo. If you are not aware that this combo exists within Dianas kit, just watch the video within my twitter post (attached to this post). Again: I do not need any advices on how to play Diana ^^

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