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Taliyah for 6.14

CypherDoom·7/12/2016, 6:36:06 AM·1 votes·916 views

Hi people i read that taliyah is gonna get a couple of changes regarding her W and her E is gonna get nerfed in order to balance her pressure. there are a couple of thing that need to be adressed there. I get the W future change will increase her pressure in lane and combos are gonna be more dangerous. Riot wants to reward good taliyah players for their W and punish not so good taliyah players, but the complementing E nerfs are off. Her dps is already lowered indirectly with the W nerf and a 6 items taliyah lvl 18 does around 460 less damage, it may not look like a lot but in a team fight ur E is gonna trigger to its maximun damage up to once since her W cooldown is gonna be up (4 seconds difference with or without 40% cdr, a lot in a teamfight) so her only weapon left for dps is her Q and already has the worked ground debuff. This change may seem that it only took (around) 460 of damage from her but its an over-nerf due to the reason above, on a sigle teamfight she will be dealing around 800 to 1000 less damage. The nerf are getting far from balancing her pressure in game, her passive and ultimate are great for map pressure and roaming but her, as a carry potential is being deprived and her late game against tanks wasnt so reliable and no one seems no notice it. With Rylai's her kiting is amazing but she basicaly zones herself with her worked ground when she tries to dps, so one of the most realiable things she can do againt tanky opponents is use her E-W which a big part of her kit, and part of her is being taken away.

13 Comments

Astôlfo7/12/2016, 10:16:23 PM4 votes

E nerf is fine because she did absurd amounts of damage. W change is the example of Riot deciding to listen to the people who don't fucking play Taliyah instead of her mains and making a completely stupid change.

iLanaDelRey7/13/2016, 9:14:31 PM3 votes

Honestly I don't like the new vector change on her W. It gives you less time to react in a situation. I countlessly messed up on her W many times because it's rapidly fast. I also find it challenging to land her W now since it no longer shows you the outline of the ability. Also reducing E's damage by a lot makes her W-E useless, That's half of her kit gone into the trash. She's even less rewarding than before. Overall, I'm not going to spend a huge amount of my patience and time to remaster her all over again.

underscores2227/12/2016, 6:52:22 AM2 votes

Unreliable combo - higher damage, but lower chances to correctly get off all the damage Reliable combo - lower damage, but higher chance to pull it off

She's going from the first to the second. In a single spell rotation, yes, it's a numerical nerf. In a multiple spell rotation, it's more likely that she will land both abilities successfully, thus dealing more damage in multiple rotation attempts.

CypherDoom7/12/2016, 6:40:45 AM1 votes

Here is the description of her E nerf availabe on PBE. https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-d2q3urpFlJw/V4QbbI6fgYI/AAAAAAAA8cc/1Ga0lNibqqMxt2l9iyNu1TRDqxNf5-g7wCLcB/s1600/tayyy.jpg

Gódzilla Mid7/13/2016, 12:01:37 PM1 votes

They honestly ruined the w and the taliyah feeling. The w feels bugged, and its inpossible to use it now. coming from one of the top taliyah mains. Im angry and annoyed by this w change.