Twisted Fate Assists With Vision

DMcKlusk·Feb 16, 2019·1 votes·1,029 views

I have played a lot of hours with Twisted Fate since starting up with LOL in 2014, he's my main mid, and I hover around silver and low bronze. Anyway I personally think he should get some assist points for creating vision during a kill, because not only does vision win games, it is also a reason some kills happen, like when you reveal a Talon during his ult, or a Akali when she's in her clouds, Khazix and Rengar Ult's are revealed, and other champs while they set up their sneaky attacks, or are just trying to hide for a bit while they setup their strategy. I also noticed that in my last game while going 15/0/12, that I didn't get an S, possibly because I didn't ward enough, or my Vision Score wasn't high enough? That I think TF's ult, should also get vision points as well, while we were on the attack quite often, and I used my ult a lot, revealing the entire map for seconds which would increase 'that' vision score I would assume. Either way I'll keep building my weird TF build I'm pretty sure no one builds.

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Sona PingFeb 16, 20192 votes

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I have played a lot of hours with Twisted Fate since starting up with LOL in 2014, he's my main mid, and I hover around silver and low bronze (I don't have , and I personally think he should get some assist points for creating vision during a kill, because not only does vision win games, it is also a reason some kills happen, like when you reveal a Talon during his ult, or a Akali when she's in her clouds, Khazix and Rengar Ult's are revealed, and other champs while they set up their sneaky attacks, or are just trying to hide for a bit while they setup their strategy. I also noticed that in my last game while going 15/0/12, that I didn't get an S, possibly because I didn't ward enough, or my Vision Score wasn't high enough? That I think TF's ult, should also get vision points as well, while we were on the attack quite often, and I used my ult a lot, revealing the entire map for seconds which would increase 'that' vision score I would assume. Either way I'll keep building my weird TF build I'm pretty sure no one builds.

If TF's ult does not contribute to vision score and a change was made so that it does: All that would do is raise the average vision score for TF, putting you back to where you started and do nothing for your grade as you are playing TF.

DMcKluskFeb 16, 2019

Good question. Once I get to my computer I'll have to run some tests... particularly one game with one ward used and one game with one ult used. Either way don't you think he should get an assist during his ults vision active?

Sona PingFeb 16, 20191 votes

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Good question. Once I get to my computer I'll have to run some tests... particularly one game with one ward used and one game with one ult used. Either way don't you think he should get an assist during his ults vision active?

No, change is not necessary and the change does not justify itself so that it should be done. It doesn't improve gameplay quality.

What Vision Score is, it is a general measure of the player's contribution to team's map vision control by placing allied wards and removing of enemy wards. It doesn't count champion vision, it doesn't tick up from seeing and waving to your enemy laner. If the game was changed so that TF's ult counted towards the total, it would just get some fraction of a point in that score. Riot could make it count more, but either way, it would both blur what Vision Score was designed to count and just raise the average for TF, so it would be pointless for the game grade. If then, it granted assists instead, it would have still have both of those issues as well as a third, where it would do nothing and TF would end with an assists anyway due to how low the bar is if the TF actually contributed towards the takedown.

DMcKluskFeb 16, 20191 votes

Very interesting I think you're correct. No need for a test on vision score because it simply wouldn't give the player a better score either way. 'That' line of discussion isn't really my main point. I think it's an interesting note but my main point is mainly "Give TF assists while there are kills inside his teleport boundaries"...I'll make a new discussion thread that states just 'that' I guess. I'm severely new to these thread things.