Please vote to remove the Mark/Dash (Snowball) summoners spell from Aram!

Elliot Ness··23 votes·2,836 views

Well I will start off by saying that I like every single change that Riot has made to the Aram game mode, but not the Mark/dash summoners spell. I thought it would be a bad change, but I didn't think it would be this bad. I have played maybe 2 Aram games since the change, because it negatively effects the game play so much that it is no longer enjoyable. I have always had minor frustrations with problems in all game modes. For example of Aram problems, the fact that people roll for a new champ 2 times, then don't like what they got, so they dodge and the game refunds both of their rolls and yet you get stuck with a worse champ or team of champs then you have before that player dodged. But all these problems with all game modes have been minor issues that I can easily look past. This Mark/dash is not something I can simply look past, It needs removed from the game.

I have had read almost every single post on the forums in regard to this topic and it seems overwhelming in favor to remove the spell and that is why I started this poll. I can also say to those who say "If it's removed then Aram goes right back to poke comps win and tanks sit there and die", that is not true. I can honestly say, yes it sucks to go against a 5 man poke comp in Aram and most of the time that may result in a loss, but there is many factors at play for a loss to become the end result in that situation. 1. When people have a better all in team before level 6 or even at level 6 (usually with the tanks), they do not all in the other team and happily sit there and get poked to death by not just the range, but the ranged teams ultimate spells. 2. You have rolls that you can use to get better champs and try to make your team well balanced to handle a poke comp or even handle another balanced team. 3. You have time in the lobby to work with fellow teammates about a strategy, like if you should all in at 6 if the enemy team is all squishy poke champs. Now you might say as many do say "Dude it is Aram and I play it just for fun, I'm not going to take it that serious", Well then you shouldn't care about the poke comps or the Mark/Dash spell at all either way, but for those who do care and play any game mode to try have fun and yet also win at the same time, the spell matters to them.

I have friends who play nothing but Aram games and it's the number one thing they enjoy about League Of Legends and they hate this new change to the Aram game mode. I have other friends who play Aram as just a way to learn better team fighting mechanics, but with no cost of losing a Summoners Rift game for their team or just trying out new champions and learning their spells. It is kind of hard for them to learn a new ADC they have never played or how to position correctly when their team can't peel the Riven flying across half of the map through their entire team to them. Yes, they can go learn the same ADC in a Summoners Rift game and more than likely get blamed for a loss by a toxic player, or play it in a bots game most likely without their friends, because no one wants the extremely small amount of XP or IP a bots game offers without win of the day available. This was the perfect game mode to have fun, tell your team "Hey never played this champ" but still get a chance to learn it while trying your best to win, plus get full XP and IP for playing.

I have played ranked in Platinum and almost got to Diamond, I have got hundreds of wins in classic game modes from Summoners Rift to Twisted Treeline, but i have played as much in Aram as I have any other game mode on League Of Legends, I thoroughly enjoyed playing Aram games. Now I don't enjoy playing Aram games anymore at all and I hope the community and Riot can help me to return Aram back to its well designed original game format. Thank you for taking the time to read this and thank you even more if you took the time to vote. Sincerely, A Fan Of The Original Aram

20 Comments

Chuck Charles9 votes

i agree, the spell is truly cheesy. i mean aram is lighthearted, but this is so cheesy. i got a penta by diving the backlines as riven. certain champs shouldnt have a nearly infinite gap closer. sure the spell is a "skill shot" but someones snowball is bound to hit if there are 5 of them.

Elliot Ness5 votes

Yeah, I agree with this and even if somehow none of the 5 snowballs hits anyone, they will just be thrown again randomly in 20 seconds.

Pucking Purrfect7 votes

The spell is freaking broken. People who say the spell balanced Aram for melee champs are delusional. Champs like Kennen, Fiddlestick, Blitzcrank, Amumu, Morgana etc. broken as hell with the mark/dash spell. Mark + Dash + Ult = R.I.P. any squishy team. Everyone abusing it. Either remove it for good or nerf the range and change the cd to something like 90 - 120 sec. Or let only melee champs like Garen, Darius etc. use it. Or better idea BRING PORO KING BACK.

Elliot Ness3 votes

I agree with most of this statement, but I don't agree with the Poro King coming back part, unless you mean as a separate game mode of Aram and not a game mode to replace it. Then yeah sure do that, bring back Poro King mode separately and then remove Mark/Dash from Aram.

Pucking Purrfect1 votes

That's what I was trying to say :)

Insixia4 votes

I like it. I mean, it makes Udyr usable in ARAM. That takes some doing lol

junglerboy164 votes

Ok, I dislike it a lot in its current state, but it is a good and necessary addition in some form or another, just in need of heavy tuning.

Elliot Ness4 votes

I'm not really quite sure why this keeps getting so many down votes, It's my opinion of a thing that needs changed in the game with a voting poll for everyone to express their opinions. If you believe I'am wrong and the summoners spell needs to stay, then vote for it to stay instead of down voting the entire thread. That way Riot actually gets a true idea of how people feel about their newly implemented change to their game.

JEsUs13 votes

nope u ever try to good withh a non tanky mele nope

Elliot Ness2 votes

Yeah, I have at least 50+ Penta Kills with Master Yi on Aram and countless Penta kills with other non-tank melee champions. You can't dive in to a Summoners Rift team fight with a non-tank melee champion, the same goes for a Aram team fight. You have to build your champ to the game mode and the enemy team and attack in the right situations. Then all champs are viable in any game mode.

Deep Terror Nami3 votes

It's been up for like a week. They are already moving 2/3rd's of its damage to the Dash (you'll only do 1/3rd just by hitting), and they are still gathering data to see if they should increase CD or reduce range (or both). Just be patient, they aren't done with it.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/summoners-rift/wHZlYGbY-i-hope-they-nerf-markdash?comment=0005

Elliot Ness3 votes

Ah, Okay. Well thank you for the link information. I still believe that it needs removed in my opinion, but to see that they are taking changes or nerfs to the Summoners spell into consideration is good.

blkh13 votes

I play mainly aram now, I like the mark/dash. I say keep it. Not all champs are right for it, but it works well with certain champs. I don't always take it as a spell. Depends on which champ I am.

Elliot Ness3 votes

Well when I first posted this it seemed to be a almost a even vote between keeping and removing it, but honestly I'm glad to see now that almost triple the people think it should be removed from the game. This recent nerf to the summoner spell didn't really change anything, the game mode is still not enjoyable. Please remove the summoner spell from the game Riot, It's okay to make a mistake and then fix that mistake.

MisSTyx3 votes

Yes remove snowball in aram. It ruins teamplay in aram !

l3ursty3 votes

I agree .I think MARK spell will work only in poro king because that mode have picks and bans.

bens on 282 votes

I only play ARAM and I loved Poro king. I was excited when I heard about mark/dash but I think it needs to be nerfed more. The damage transferal to majority of dmg onto dash is a good start but the CD needs to be increased. 20 seconds is just too short for such a good skill. Really it is like having Ashe's E every 20 seconds but better because it will reveal Teemo and stealthed champs in the bush, and it also does dmg (which was nerfed fortunately), and offensively it's much better than flash, and defensively it gets u back into lane to defend towers very fast or right into a team fight. i DON'T think it should be removed at all because tanks on aram really needed some love. BUT at 20 sec ppl just spam it and there is no consequence to wasting it - you get someone to burn their flash and you are happy. I would like to see at least 30 but hopefully around 60 second CD.

Josh1232 votes

bump bump bump

Elliot Ness1 votes

Well It has been a very long time since I have had a chance to check this thread, but it seems that roughly 75% of the people who actually take the time to vote their opinion believe that the snowball should be removed from the Aram game mode.

Crossette1 votes

Mark/Dash makes melee champions more viable.

However, fuck Garen and Darius with it.

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