@Repertoir- Anivia visual update regarding abilities???

TheOracle2000··5 votes·2,608 views

In my opinion Anivia's abilities are long overdue for a visual update. I like to compare what they look like to Lissandra's. Lissandra's abilities all look very smooth and sharp but anivia's look so jagged and truly just look like they haven't been updated since she was realeased. So I'm just curious if you guys @Riot have even considered giving Anivia the visual updates on her abilities that she needs?

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RiotRiotRepertoir6 votes

Agree that she could use them, and she comes up every now and again for VU work, but I don't think there's currently a plan for them.

Icepaw1 votes

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Agree that she could use them, and she comes up every now and again for VU work, but I don't think there's currently a plan for them.

Im gonna pop in here, and ask very nice if you could read this post http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/3X8P4ZnL-the-state-of-fiddlesticks , and perhaps give us a view on the state of this champ? I would be forever grateful!

sp4411 votes

In short term, she could at least use an improved AA animation.

Ultîma1 votes

Anivia seems an ideal candidate for low-level VU like Kassadin, Maokai & Singed.

toonpang1 votes

@RiotRepertoir

Hey dude you said you were going to talk about the Morde changes, and it seems CT's still dead silent?

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/uosY3yez-how-the-reworks-deal-with-player-feedback

Sorry, I know you're getting a lot of difficult or annoying questions right now, but you did hint you'd come back, and we Morde mains are dying for some answers.

RiotRiotRepertoir7 votes

Hi toonpang.

When I said I wanted to come back to that topic, I did mean it, and I should have popped in earlier. At the moment, I don't really want to engage in topics of conversation that are "Repertoir v CertainlyT" or "Morde's Rework should be handled like (example here)."

I am, however, happy to talk about Riot's engagement with players on the boards and elsewhere, and the kinds of things that make players excited to talk about, hear about, learn about, etc.

CertainlyT is a good friend, a brilliant designer, and a guy that I run almost all my design ideas off of (he sits literally three feet to my left every day), and though his style may differ, I do firmly believe the guy knows what he's doing and trust him to do what's best for the game. As such, I'd prefer to let him handle the Morde Update's changes and communication in the way that thinks will be most conducive to delivering the best product.

HadesBlades1 votes

^_^ quick question for all AP champions and the MR changes that effect assassins and maybe brings new strength to the juggernauts. The Null Magic Mantle is now 450 (which if you wait in base also gives 1 pot). That is 25 mr level one on potential tanks top and people like katarina mid early. Do you think that will nullify AP champions too early? Will it effect Morde or some champs like maokai when facing the new juggernauts top?

Side note:

I love both CertainlyT and your ideas and forms of balancing keep up the awesome work!

Thryale1 votes

I just don't really like/understand the ad ratio's.

Sure yer trying to make him a "juggernaut" and have him build tankier and such. But even then, mord has a ton of tanky ap items to choose from, why are you throwing in ad items into the mix now? It feels like he needs to buy every stat under the sun now to take advantage of his kit, and that's gonna end up in him having a wonky build and cause problems with him building piecemeal when he needs to make situational purchases.

I really dislike %hp ratios on champs, but honestly I would rather mord have %hp scaling on his Q and E than AD ratios. At least that would incentivize him to build into this hulking behemoth that will knock you silly when he gets on you. (%hp on his Q is more thematic too, giant tanky dude knocks you upside the head with his massive mace, throwing the weight of his whole body into it)

So could you or CertainlyT give some context on why the AD ratios plz?

toonpang1 votes

Ah. Thank you kindly.

I do firmly believe the guy knows what he's doing and trust him to do what's best for the game.

I think the playerbase who deals with his changes disagrees with you on the "he knows what he's doing" bit, although defending your mate is honorable. This Morde rework is a repeat of CertainlyT's previous mistakes: When it works as intended, it's too damn good.

But it makes Morde reliant on a good support, and these are rare in solo queue. Without one he's useless, from what I've experienced on my PBE account. And it seems like CertainlyT is ignoring all these concerns when he says "yea well get a good support then lol" and changes nothing except the Q damage.

We realise he wants what's best and he's not some evil entity or anything, and he makes fun designs that are great to watch; but he's done a lot of damage to the game which outweighs the good he does, and he seems to fully ignore the feedback on it.

Electro5222 votes

What you consider "damage" may actually be what Riot strives for.

The champions CertainlyT has made and has worked on have been some of the most impactful and game changing champions this game has ever seen. Yes, people hate them, but there is not one champion in the game that someone does not hate to some degree.

Thresh redefined the support role, and bottom lane as a whole.

Kalista has been just as or even more polarizing than Teemo!

Darius has become a long time favorite for many people out there, and even though he is being slightly reworked (and Certainly isn't reworking him), he will still feel like Darius.

Zyra, unfortunately needs some love right now, so, we can leave her out.

And finally, Yasuo. Do I even need to explain Yasuo?

Also, in regards to Zed, people should stop blaming for Zed, for he only helped slightly with Zed and is not responsible for his full production (this comes from the League wiki: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Zed/SkinsTrivia ). So, stop blaming him for Zed.

Yes, the champions he has made have all been released over powered. Zyra was so stupidly overpowered, that the game was basically over once she was chosen. However, how many other champs have been released that were overpowered on release that CertianlyT didn't make? To name a few......:Ekko Lucian Gnar Sion.

Your blaming CertianlyT for something all of Riot is accountable for, and that just isn't fair.

toonpang1 votes

In Riot's own words, what they strive for is minimisation of burden of knowledge [as in, players should understand what an ability does after the enemy uses it without looking up the wiki.] CertainlyT is terrible at that. Armor penetration hidden in Yasuo's ult, CDR in Zyra's seeds, bonus infinitely scaling autoattack damage in Thresh's Flay passive, and so on.

Thresh and Kalista were both such big designs because they do just about everything other champs in their roles do. At one point in her design, Kal could globally teleport to her Sentinels if they were triggered, until someone rightfully told CertainlyT it was stupid.

I didn't blame him for Zed. But remember, Zed's been frequently picked/banned since his release, until the 1 second nerf to his ult "Get out of jail free" escape came along. CertainlyT was responsible for the addition of that escape.

Zyra, on her release, had a 65% winrate with people who had even had 5 games or less.

League of Legends has different champions with different strengths, weaknesses, and abilities because that's what makes the game interesting. But CertainlyT's kits seem to ignore that because he just packs them full of extra goodies which ultimately eliminate most of their weaknesses. It's like he looks at a champion kit he's making and then gets carried away, like they were letting a 12 year old design a champ. "Okay, I'll make a champion which can do this, this, this, this and this. Oh, but she should also have this! And this! And this thing!"

CertainlyT is the fan fiction writer of League champion design. His champions are Mary Sues, good at lots of things but with almost no weaknesses. Which is why they're popular. Why play a champ who actually has weaknesses?

Yes, other champion designers have made mistakes in the past. But every single one of CertainlyT's designs has been pick/ban some time after release. That's a very bad track record for a designer.

Knight SoIaire 1 votes

CertainlyT is a good friend, a brilliant designer, and a guy that I run almost all my design ideas off of (he sits literally three feet to my left every day), and though his style may differ, I do firmly believe the guy knows what he's doing and trust him to do what's best for the game. As such, I'd prefer to let him handle the Morde Update's changes and communication in the way that thinks will be most conducive to delivering the best product.

Man then just slap him to the arm and tell him to appear here and talk with us. Most of the hate he gets is not because people hate his work but because he does it in secrecy.

I personally dont like all that juggernaut stuff ... it will be balanced with titanic hydra coming out ... but i dont think that all of our balance should be pushed onto items (the way items evolve indicates that riot wants to put a bigger load of balance on them).

Anyway as much as your friend has a destroyed public image ... i think that a little conversation here, just like we can talk with you (well atm you are a master tier at communicating with us ... so he doesnt need to reach your level) could fix his image fast

A little Peepo2 votes

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Man then just slap him to the arm and tell him to appear here and talk with us. Most of the hate he gets is not because people hate his work but because he does it in secrecy.

I personally dont like all that juggernaut stuff ... it will be balanced with titanic hydra coming out ... but i dont think that all of our balance should be pushed onto items (the way items evolve indicates that riot wants to put a bigger load of balance on them).

Anyway as much as your friend has a destroyed public image ... i think that a little conversation here, just like we can talk with you (well atm you are a master tier at communicating with us ... so he doesnt need to reach your level) could fix his image fast

He would be smart not to because every time someone jumps on forums to answer they get needlessly down voted and attacked for answering a question. The boards are too god damn toxic that I would be afraid to show my face anywhere with all the hate he has gained.

Decrit1 votes

Give CT a hug, he could appreciate that.

Bonus points if it gets awkward

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