Yasuo needs to be turned off until he is fixed.

F3N1X·May 25, 2017·5 votes·678 views

To the naysayers (the mains) who advocate that he isn't broken, I have one question for you:

If there's nothing wrong with him, why is he statistically the most banned champion in all of league? Not only this, but: Hes statistically the most banned champion in all regions but KR, where he is top 4. Hes the #1 ban in: Bronze, Silver, and Gold in all regions except KR where he is 4th. Top 3rd banned in Plat Top 7th banned champ in Diamond And for some reason in master league he doesn't make the list (which doesn't make sense)

I've seen other posts where plenty of players who play him will tell you hes op, and one even went on to say that multi-kills aren't satisfying on him because he's easy to play as well as completely overpowered.

Seriously, I've been playing this game for years, and never experienced first-hand a champion more unbalanced than currently is.

35 Comments

MarshbouyMay 25, 20173 votes

Hes the #1 ban in: Bronze, Silver, and Gold

because as we all know, low elo is the best place for us to balance around.

F3N1XMay 25, 20171 votes

Statistically the most banned champ in league. How can this not compute? Also, this post is all fluf and zero substance. You post shit incessantly for upvotes....

RalanrMay 25, 20172 votes

If most of the players in league are trash, then they aren't really taken seriously. Game isn't balanced below plat.

F3N1XMay 25, 20171 votes

I'll bet you're super fun to play with....

RalanrMay 25, 20172 votes

I am actually. I am very protective.

F3N1XMay 25, 20171 votes

Protective of what, unbalanced champs?

MarshbouyMay 25, 20172 votes

protective of teammates. duh.

MarshbouyMay 25, 20172 votes

Statistically the most banned champ in league. How can this not compute?

Statistically banned by the least good people in the game. Just because plebs like me don't want to fight him doesn't mean he has any issues other than "i find him annoying to fight in lane/i think his mains are toxic shitlords"

You post shit incessantly for upvotes....

Not really. I usually post stuff that I find an issue with. If you go through my post history a lot of my posts actually do really poorly because I have unpopular opinions. OFC i delete a lot of the ones where i have an unpopular opinion because i don't like being called obscenities 16 times.

F3N1XMay 25, 20171 votes

I've already said it.....hes statistically banned by the extreme majority of players. To put things into perspective, Teemo is a universally hated champion by most all players, is affectionately referred to as "cancer", and doesn't even crack the top 10 in any elo, in any region.

I'd venture a guess that most people ban champions based on how overpowered they think they are (as I do), not simply because they are "annoying". If this were the case, you'd think Teemo would be numero uno.....not the case.

There are a ton of champs with goofy kits which make them "annoying", but take a look at which champions make the top 10 most banned.

Take NA bronze for example. Top 10 most banned champs: Yasuo Darius Fizz Xayah Blitzcrank MasterYi Zed Sejuani Lulu LeeSin

None of these champs are on this list because they are "annoying", most of these champs are overpowered and good against most other champs in all situations.

MarshbouyMay 25, 20171 votes

I've already said it.....hes statistically banned by the extreme majority of players. To put things into perspective, Teemo is a universally hated champion by most all players, is affectionately referred to as "cancer", and doesn't even crack the top 10 in any elo, in any region.

The majority of the players do not matter if they refuse to learn how to play against them. Teemo is only hated as a meme at this point. He can be countered fairly easily, and gets pretty shit on in lane in many matchups.

I'd venture a guess that most people ban champions based on how overpowered they think they are (as I do), not simply because they are "annoying". If this were the case, you'd think Teemo would be numero uno.....not the case.

No people ban based off what they find annoying in lower elos. After zed got large nerfs he still stayed as a number 1 ban for a few weeks way back in early s6. Stop using teemo as an example.

Take NA bronze for example. Top 10 most banned champs:

Darius is arguably OP. Fizz is arguably OP. Xayah is arguably OP. Blitzcrank is just annoying. He is not unbalanced, he stays at a fairly high banrate because he is annoying. Master yi is a non issue in literally any Elo above plat unless the master yi is a complete god (or he's really busted). He's banned in low elo because peoplein Low elo are shit. Zed is not OP, he is just perceived as both annoying and "op" in low elo because people can't peel for their teammates well. IDK about sej. I'm not getting into a fight about Lee Sin.

You are clearly a delusional low elo player who can't learn to fight a champion. It's not hard. Just git gud. I'm sick of wasting my time talking to you.

F3N1XMay 25, 20171 votes

You are clearly a delusional low elo player who can't learn to fight a champion. It's not hard. Just git gud. I'm sick of wasting my time talking to you.

Sounds like I'm in the end of game chat with yet another toxic player who needs to bash others after spamming op champs.

I also like how you listed the 3 other top banned champs, said they were op, and left out Yasuo even though hes #No.1

The majority of the players do not matter if they refuse to learn how to play against them.

I also love how you think that over 90% of players "just don't bother to learn how to play against him"! Do you actually believe this????

F3N1XMay 25, 20171 votes

No.1 most banned champ in all of league. Guess this game is only for the pros......ROFL.

MarshbouyMay 25, 20171 votes

He's number one in elos where people don't want to learn how to fight him or teams don't learn how to fight him. Funnily enough when you get into elos where teams/individuals do know how to fight him he stops being banned as much if at all.

F3N1XMay 25, 20171 votes

The only elo where he doesn't make the top 10 is Master+ where there are only ~800 people who play the game. You're basically stating that low elo is anything below Master, which is a patently ridiculous generalization. You're also stating that over 90% of the player base is wrong. This is compounded specifically by the fact that 90% of league players are gold or below.

RewtMay 25, 20174 votes

Riot has stated that 90% of their playersbase is Gold and below. So this does mean that for 90% of the player base he is the most banned champ. While we shouldnt unilaterally balance around low elo we should take numbers like this into account.

MarshbouyMay 25, 20171 votes

it should definitely be taken into consideration, but it's still worth pretty much nothing.

RewtMay 25, 20174 votes

if 90% of your playerbase (i.e 90% of your income) is having a negative experience from something its probably worth quite a lot.

MarshbouyMay 25, 20172 votes

90% of the playerbase also has issues with stuff like Zed, which isn't a problem against a well coordinated team.

F3N1XMay 25, 20171 votes

Zed is quite powerful, and also cracks the top 5 most banned champs in most elos.....

It seems if it was left up to you, no champs would ever get reworked because "you just need to learn to play against them"

RewtMay 25, 20172 votes

which soloq never is. Its barely organized in challenger. Its why back when zed was actually strong there were like 10 zed one tricks in challenger

xJLx MCHammerMay 25, 20172 votes

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because as we all know, low elo is the best place for us to balance around.

True but sometimes a champion needs to be changed up because it is affecting majority of the players too much despite X champion being perfectly healthy in lower elos.

While I do think he is completely fine as a champion, i do think his ultimate shouldn't be proc'ed by every knock up. Things like Hec's E, Blitz Q, Thresh Q, Ramnus Q...etc. It really can be annoying. That problem will only increase as the game add more champions and CC.

Anyways, lets not forget, Riot has nerfed or reworked champions for being unhealthy for a majority of players like AP YI...

Mecha MaIphiteMay 25, 20173 votes

And for some reason in master league he doesn't make the list (which doesn't make sense)

it totally does

the higher you go, the more people have bothered to actually learn how to play against him

F3N1XMay 25, 20171 votes

So you don't see a problem with him at all? His banrate tells me everything I need to know about him.

MarshbouyMay 25, 20172 votes

Yeah. It tells you that people in lower elos can't be bothered to learn how to play against him.

DoodlzzzMay 25, 20172 votes

he's banned cause people get annoyed by his annoying kit. Teemo isn't op but people ban him because he's annoying AF

F3N1XMay 25, 20171 votes

This post is a lie, because statistically, Teemo doesn't even make the top 10 in terms of banned champs in any elo....simply because Teemo is annoying, not broken. Yas's brokenness is evidenced by his extreme ban rate throughout the entire game on any server.

#logic

Kai GuyMay 25, 20172 votes

That post is not a lie, Doodlzz did not claim that teemo is top 10 ban. His point is that people will ban champion they find annoying af.

F3N1XMay 25, 20171 votes

Comparing Yas and Teemo and saying they get banned because both are "annoying" is absolutely ridiculous. The reasons for their individual banrates differ by orders of magnitude.

KingWill07May 25, 20172 votes

Your still missing the point. WHat Vacuum is saying that MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE BANNED YASUO. WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT TEEMO, OR SHACO or ANYTHING WITH O aprt from the most banned champion lol YASUO. New players cant handle a teemo which i know. when i first start teemo was the player i first say was op then dinger but after that getting to play the game more Teemo is just ordinary. Yasuo is not a normal champion. I am not new to lol man and i am a Shaco main and i am good but I never see a player escape from a yasuo. He has dashes to catch and soon as your knocked up he ults you. He probably must be the only champion right now that has the most penta kills. That is not cool.

Kai GuyMay 25, 20171 votes

I am not missing his point, I did not even address it in my response. My issue was him calling the poster above a liar for no real reason. Yas has a great kit, he is likely to strong at the moment and its fair to expect some nerfs in the next patch or two to bring him down a bit. I don't have issues with strong outliers being lowered when needed. Those saying its not a problem for higher elo are not wrong, but that does not necessary mean that lower elo should be ignored for balance, it makes the game unfun for a majority of players.

KingWill07May 25, 20171 votes

Alright fam.

RalanrMay 25, 20172 votes

There is nothing you need to really fix on Yasuo. The tornado hold duration nerf on the PBE is fine. The only think I'd change beyond that is how his Windwall works. I'd stop it from getting bigger with rank and then just reduce the rank one duration so that it lasts longer with higher rank.

That way one point wonder Yasuo's with W will be rewarded for using it as normal, but not heavily punish people for so long.

KingWill07May 25, 20172 votes

To what i have seen yasuo is easy to play and hard to beat. Its not easy beating yasuo or even escaping him because of his dashes. Yasuo is not even squishy anymore so he is hard to kill. His items are cheap comparing him to any other champions. Yasuo preffered role is everything. People play this champ in Mid, jungle,top, adc and support and still lost. Yasuo is not even and ADC champion yet ive seen players get beaten and get penta by a yasuo. Nerfed this champion Riot because i agree with you fam.

BlackFluxMay 25, 20172 votes

now, I am not taking sides. I find certain things about yasuo nerf worthy but its not some "OMFG RITO FIX YOUR STUFF YOU A HORRIBLE COMPANY" the the main things that annoys me is his high damage ult,and 100% crit with 2 items and how muc he can dash onto about anything. did you know a full build yasuo can get like 2000 AD? the "specific" thing that annoys me is how efficient he is with gold. 2 items the suddenly every AD item he gets has double AD.