A person can start getting magic resist for 500 gold, and when the ap user needs penetration to counter it, the cheapest thing he can buy is a haunting guise or sorc's boots if you count that. Haunting guise is 1500 gold, please, what the heck? It doesn't even have much penetration!
LaceUp232 votesFalse, you can get boots for less gold. You also get mag pen for 0 gold through masteries and runes.
Trickster Jester1 votesNote my comment above. I think you misread my original post.
Critmaster Garen2 votesin an ad vs ap matchup the only thing thats unfair is that the ap champ can start with cloth + pots, while there is no real equivalent for mr.
Nameless Voice2 votesBut most champions start with much more MR than armour, and MR runes are much more effective than armour ones.
SaltyKracka2 votes[{quoted}](name=Nameless Voice,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RrFuWadu,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2015-07-26T19:26:34.697+0000)
But most champions start with much more MR than armour, and MR runes are much more effective than armour ones.
...This is the opposite of true.
Nameless Voice1 votesWhich part is untrue?
Some random examples: LeBlanc: 21.9 armour vs 30 MR Katarina: 26.9 armour vs 31.2 MR Ahri: 20.9 armour vs 30 MR Lux: 18.7 armour vs 30 MR Brand: 21.9 armour vs 30 MR Rammus: 31.4 armour vs 32.1 MR (highest base armour in the game)
Armour seal: +1 armour MR glyph + 1.34 magic resist
Pupel2 votesWell tanks/bruises tend to be good in the 1v1 especially against full damage carries. but they sacrifice meaningful teamfight dammage so if you build glass cannon i would think you would want to poke till you could burst them or just wave clear and make them farm at tower
Dr Poro2 votesResistance counters damage. That's the point of resistance. Damage has other priviledges, though.
If shen has 300 MRes, fine. Just ignore him and use your spells on other enemies. If he only builds Magic resist, your AD teammates will still kill him easily. Lane swap can be a very good option if you notice the enemy counterbuilding you. Otherwise, it's often best to just push waves and ignore Shen himself. He does some poke damage, but not a lot. He might kill you if you let him fight you long enough, but you'll never kill him. So don't bother. Just push the wave and gank another lane and/or try to force objectives (turrets/drake/enemy jungle camps) elsewhere.
Look at it this way. By building magic damage on a mage, you deal more damage vs 5 enemy champions (+ minions, monsters, turrets) By building Magic resist you reduce the damage only from enemy magic damage dealers. If you have 5 Magic damage dealers in your team, your comp sucks. Usually you'll have between 1 and 3. It makes sense that Magic resist has to be more efficient than AP in a 1v1 situation to make it viable in a 5v5 situation. Tanks don't only need magic resist, but also armor. However, if they lane vs a mage, they'll often wait for this till lategame. Therefore, you need to avoid fighting these champs once they have stacked resistance against you.
Trickster Jester1 votesShen built all mr against me, and he did more damage to me than i did to him and i built all damage WTF
Mecha MaIphite4 votes...that's what shen does, your fault for building damage against a DPS tank.
Erockandroll1 votesLet's not forget that Shen also got Scaling MR recently. Of coarse he's going to be a bit resistant in the AP matchup.
Trickster Jester1 votesI'm having the same problem with every bruiser/tank. The only lane I've been able to win is against Riven.
Trickster Jester1 votesHow in the heck can people not see my point? You think I want to be forced to buy tier two boots before any real damage items? This is bullshit.
Nameless Voice1 votesTier 2 boots are one of the best early damage items against all enemies. Don't underestimate the power of magic pen.