Shen Needs Some Love
Any suggestions? I used to love playing him but now he's overshadowed by every other tanky bruiser that can actually do damage.
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Giving him MR/Level (like every other tank ever) would be an easy step in the right direction. If you're going to be a low damage utility tank, you had better be really tanky, and Shen isn't.
I feel Shen needs a more intensive rework then just some buffs. There are a lot of champions who have shielding abilities now. Ones that shield themselves (Rumble, Riven) and ones that can shield others (Lulu, Orianna). Basically Shen's power before was he could come in giving your ADC or whoever was being focused down a massive shield, arrive in the fight, then taunt whoever was going HAM on the target. Shen's uniqueness is basically gone now because almost any other champion who has better teamfight presence now will just take TP and have a much higher impact in the fight then he would, be it with damage or peeling. Also TP has the advantage of allowing you to get into the fight REGARDLESS or whether your "target" dies and if whoever Shen ulted before his channel is up, then Shen won't get into the fight. TP allows you to get in unless you cancel it or you get stopped by enemy CC. This is just my problem with his ultimate. I feel the buff to TP kind of killed him, though it does allow for some alternatives for him as he can take ignite/exhaust instead and still have global presence or take TP as well to have even MORE map presence, but i digress.
In regards to his other abilities, his QWE I feel they are all okay. I kind of wish his E was different so it was easier to land, but I'm okay with it. His Q and W allow him to CS/sustain pretty well in both jungle/lane, so no problems for me there. They could maybe use a little buff or something, though, maybe changing some ratios to AD(Q at least) as he doesn't really buy AP and there aren't really many AP items that I feel he can buy that are actually worth it for the amount of damage he does.
From the standpoint of someone who doesn't play Shen, I feel like the one ability that allows Shen to stand out among the champions of League of Legends is his ultimate, Stand United. It's a super impactful ability that allows Shen to save an ally from across the map or use his teammates to set up a play, and also provides a very unique niche that focuses more on providing non-crowd control utility for his team rather than focusing on full-on crowd control.
Something that would focus more on Shen's unique gameplay would be if his ultimate and shield scaled a little bit more in the late game, particularly with health. This way, Shen's ultimate will have an even greater impact throughout the entire game, more so the late game, while his shield will also allow him to tank a lot more damage and, therefore, be able to assist his team a lot more. These changes would also have him compete less with other tanky bruisers by keeping him more focused as a support-ish tank without relegating him to a support position.
Shen = Terrible splitpusher despite ult being perfect for split pushing
Problem = No waveclear, takes towers super slowly
Adding some sort of AoE that does low damage early but more late and scales with health would solve it. Thinking some combo'd ability like 
's E + Q combo, with Shen's W + E
Maybe allow passive to proc on enemy towers.
Shens shield is so worthless mid to late game, not sure why they made it scale AP. No waveclear. RIOT pls look into this.
He will never be allowed to be any stronger because of his ultimate.
Shen is perfect. He is honestly my go to champ for ranked. So few can counter the utility he brings to team fights and he does a ton of damage if you build right.
Tons of small little things would make him stronger.
I agree that giving him mr/lvl would make him a lot stronger with all the ap tops coming out and the fact that a lot of damage in the top lane is actually dealt as magic. To not be receiving any per level I would at least assume he gets higher than average armor/lvl but he gets 4, the max any get.
But anyway, some things to make Shen stronger: allow the interaction between his auto attack and passive to proc on tower hits. The damage is applied but not the reset, why? Scale W on either mr/ar/hp, it is very crippling having a skill that does next to nothing, it's pitiful shield is useful only in the early game and even then its best function is the interaction with his passive. Having it scale off the stats he wants to buy makes more sense than any other change anyone could say about Shen. You likely will never get any ap so it's going to be a stagnant 220 shield which isn't enough to stop even 1 auto attack or skill from any enemy with 2 items.
Leave all the rest the same. His q poke and the dueling he can do with q and e are very good. People have this idea that he's a low damage utility tank but he isn't, not even close. He is a fantastic duelist and his burst is very surprising and gated by absolutely nothing since he neither loses mana or hp from using his spells. He doesn't need more damage to split push (buy a sunfire or don't split push at all) and his ult shield is still very difficult to break unless you wait too long for the perfect moment
He just needs his W fixed and maybe a small scaling buff to his passive. If you play him right he is just oppressive in lane. Infinite sustain and poke, that's why he isn't buffed, not just the ult.
You know if Shen's passive could crit and did more damage based on how much he tanks (up to a cap) he'd be pretty damn good.
Honestly if his passive just restored more energy he'd be in a much better place. Riot has made a lot of changes to the game to allow players to "press more buttons" but Shen is from a time when that wasn't so, and has not been touched in that regard.
He often finds himself unable to use his most crucial skill when he needs it, his E, while a tank like Leona for example could have stunned half the enemy team in one fluid motion while putting extra lockdown on any particular target she can land her skills on and still have the capacity to do it all again sans ult due to late game mana not being an issue.
People tend to forget Shen is an energy based tank, which is a huge advantage in of itself over mana based tanks. If Shen used mana, Shen could be much more powerful.
#Mana4Shen
His lore to me should be like the lore of Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow from G.I Joe.
Riot needs to give Shen Magic Resist per level. Riot might need to change Shen's passive to something more defensive. Riot might need to give Shen a shield when he ults, not just his target.
Shen needs loads of work done imo. Not sure what but what he currently has isn't good enough.
To elaborate on that feeling I suppose I feel as though he should be a little more offensively oriented. Again, not sure how though... Maybe I'll think of something and come back here with it.
just another champ nerfed to nonexistence because riot champ designers in silver 5 got mad they got beat by one. MEANWHILE dozens of op champs evasion high damage loaded kit champs untouched for ages lol.
He needs a gameplay update imo.Currently his spells are so bad, is EXTREMELY item dependant, and isnt very tanky and has close to no damage.First off his passive is the only thing good on him but its synergy with his other skills is terrible, its his only damage dealer, deserves a buff and is the only thing that scales with his health(rest scale with AP which is dumb especially being a tank). Honestly his w(which currently is a worthless shield and should scale with health) and e could be one spell and his heal on his q is terrible because when it heals for 22 health when you have close to 3500 health it is nothing. They should also buff 
to make him better (if they actually arent going to remove it) and 
(maybe 
also) . His ult imo could just be deleted for another spell cuz if your teammate needs help they could just pop a 
and shen use 
. Plus its global and his ult isnt so its better to do this imo. Lastly his base stats are terrible for a tank. his MR should go up when leveling and he should have higher base armor. Also he should have higher health and health regen late game.
Man, I really liked using shen a long time ago. Then I met every other tank in the game. Except mayb nautilous. And I cried. Cause I realized Shen aint worth a shit now. Mao=70% win Rammus=99.99% win J4=78% win PLS I WANT SHEN TO BE VIABLE. His kit just doesnt have any waveclear and his q deals no dmg and his shield doesnt do shit and hes not even tanky compared to maokai, rammus, ect... Pls