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Riot please do something about supports

Savior78··2 votes·559 views

Dear riot could you please do something about support that enables them to be counted equal to the other role? Something like have 2 assists equal to that of 1 kill as we the BACKBONE aren't out for kills or cs, It makes it supremely hard on us to gain elo if our mmr is lower than our skill! We the support main are tired of being unrecognized for our skill levels of sacrifices we have to make for our team! Also WE get uber flamed and down graded for take a kill to save a life. AND bth we really hate babysitting the children that are 5/3/4 because they became tilted from us saving their life when had to do it ending matches 4/3/26 puts us at a HUGE disadvantage to climb because we're not there for kills or a high creep score! PLEASE PLEASE oh riot gods hear the cry of us the supports!

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Jamaree2 votes

The reason you are having trouble gaining elo is because you are playing support at low elo. Stop it. Supports are fine.

Savior781 votes

THEN for the love of all things holy tell me as a support main what the hell I am doing wrong Please? Cause I am absolute trash as anything else but support I CAN'T cs to save my life but I save lives better then Mother Tresa at Sunday school. Just seems flying solo is not working for me and everytime I try I start gaining rank and mmr then I lose it faster then a cop at a doughnut shop!

Who Fed Ru1 votes

You can always learn it.

If you think Support requires skill you are wrong anyway. You won't learn the game the right way nor climb as support main.

Savior781 votes

I used to play top then that got fought over from season 1=2 so I switched to mid then from 2-3 I did that till that was fought over so I went jungle 3-4 thenm adc mid 4-5 in 5 I finally went back mid and adc cause of the system change but took me 2 1/2 hours a few times to get into a Q so I picked up support and been there ever since. + I love support like you said it's not super stress full my cs score are terrible kda as anything is complete disgust. I love because I can focus on me my laning partner and not worry about " Are my teammates feeding and need help?" or things like that!

Jamaree1 votes

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THEN for the love of all things holy tell me as a support main what the hell I am doing wrong Please?

You are playing support at low elo, THAT is the problem. I personally believe that support is by far the most important role in the whole game, if not the most important, then second most important, even higher then ADC, why do I say that? Because it is the SUPPORT not the ADC or the jungler (normally) that sets the team up for success. It is the support who wards, who pressures to let the ADC farm to carry level, who applies CC and peel for the team. The support lays the groundwork for the rest of the team to excel. The support is the foundation of a house. You can't see it and might not notice it at times, but without a strong foundation, that house is going to crumble.

Now after saying that, why do I say don't support at low elo? Because you can be the world's best support, you can set up every kill perfectly to make it so all the ADC has to do is look at them to kill them. You can make the map look like Christmas with how much you light it up. You can stop people from even spitting in the direction of your team, BUT, if you don't have a team that knows how to follow up on it, you are basically useless and at low elo, that is exactly the problem. Players don't know what they are doing, they don't know how to follow up, take advantages, rotate, or any of the cores of this game. Supports are just that, supports and most of the time, they can't conventionally carry.

Cause I am absolute trash as anything else but support I CAN'T cs to save my life but I save lives better then Mother Tresa at Sunday school. Just seems flying solo is not working for me and everytime I try I start gaining rank and mmr then I lose it faster then a cop at a doughnut shop!

Then get to learning a new role, or duo until you get out of low elo, I suggest not supporting solo until you are at least Gold where people SLIGHTLY understand how to play better.

Savior781 votes

So with your statement everything that I was told is false! About that the " You can carry yourself out of bronze/silver as a support"

Jamaree1 votes

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So with your statement everything that I was told is false! About that the " You can carry yourself out of bronze/silver as a support"

You can, it isn't worth the stress though and it will take far longer then just picking a carry role.

Azadethe1 votes

Erm..... you don't speak for me. I generally get right up with laners on gold if I'm doing my job right, and the adcs I play with generally don't give a F if I take kills. They know I'm a monster when I play Nami and most strangers know it too once they see me around level 7ish. When you can reliably go most games with 1-2 deaths max on nami but 70% kill participation rate, people respect you enough not to bish.

I guarantee in that same game you went 4/3/26, those 26 assists probably surpass the entire KDA of any of your laners; they're probably like ~7/2/8 or so. You got enough assists to make it worth it.

If an ADC rages, block them.

Savior781 votes

NO I don't but then again you're already higher elo then I am I placed this here because supporting in bronze/silver is a nightmare so much so that climbing as support seems impossible! Yet I watched tons of VODs on how to do it as support still hard stuck as support in low elo since season 1. NO clue what/who/how/why or when to try to fix what is happening that's got me fixed to my elo. I've even been doing the blame game on myself yet nothing has been taking iout except 1 thing and that has lead me down a dark path of loss and regret.

Azadethe1 votes

My advice? Try enchanters. Don't build the standard nub item 3303 item 3504 item 3117 item 3107

Build item 3304 instead, and at 4 minutes when you have item 3304 item 1006 and 350g, recall, upgrade it to Tier 2. Try to get it to T3 when convenient.

Then..... just stay in lane as long as your mana will let you and your HP is high. This will get you a 7:14 -9 minute ward quest done.

Then build AP instead of active items (for example, item 3504 item 3003 item 3174 as your core), and then spend most of the game looking at the minimap. If a jungle fight occurs near you where you can go without risking your adc, go help it through a warded, visual path (don't take dark paths if you don't know where the other team is)

If your adc recalls, but you're still very healthy, go help mid until adc is back. But again, only take safe routes. Keep track of drakes and ping them religiously and try to ward them if you can.

Oh. and don't get stuck thinking your adc needs you more than the rest of your team. If you lose turret/adc feeds 0/5, start taking CS, defending on your own, but not engaging the other team. Then go roam and support someone else on your team, preferably in a lane so Nomad's picks up gold.

These three AP items are pretty much the secret to any Support enchanter hypercarry. They put you over 300 AP, and boost all your skills/presence, and give massive mana sustain.

Savior781 votes

Thank yoyu very much for that information! Now Enchanters would be likeAnnie Fiddlesticks Karma Lux Sona Soraka Zilean Zyra Lulu correct?

Azadethe1 votes

Janna Sona Nami Soraka Lulu are generally the enchanters, and if you can master Janna or Nami, you become a royal thorn in the other team's side regularly.

Karma can act as one and so can most shield champs, but imo, Karma struggles to lay up the 60-70% win rates. Mage bots are nice, but they don't generally save their adc, and they usually struggle to contribute to a bot lane because minions are always in the way. on Annie, Lux, Karma, Zyra, you're basically betting on being a 5th semi carry or carry, which sometimes doesn't work, because the other team has someone like Riven who can just in on you and end you.

Karma's primary strength is combining item 3504 with her Ult E as a game winner, but sometimes teams don't play tightly enough to use it, or they needed more damage or are timid turret takes. She can prevent damage, but she has trouble healing the damage up, which is why i generally lean on Nami or Sona as a healer. She's also only temporarily a fast mover, and has no non localised hard CC, which means she's a primary target for being killed by MasterYi which is a pretty common pick.

Nami is my personal favorite. If you know her bubble mechanics perfectly, her passive perfectly, and go AP instead of active item, she's a monster, both in heals, and in being a fight presence. Land bubbles on 3 champs often = gg team fight. Timing a bubble on a difficult target the very second your R hits them = bye bye hard target if your team knows what you're doing. Knowing that your R also adds up to 300 move speed to your teammates = important to knowing it's not just an offensive skill. Knowing who to E and having the mana to spam it = no one can run from you or your teammates and you're going to get a higher kill participation rate than anyone other champ in the game, which increases your gold take.

I'll give you a hint on Nami's bubble. It takes .78 seconds to fall, so certain champs can abuse that and make it miss. Vayne Kalista MasterYi Akali

At least with Yi, at your Elo, there is an opportunity to get him killed every time. If Yi is after you, and you are even remotely tanky, at low elo, Yi will usually Alpha strike you to catch up and begin his engage of you. Alpha strike always lands behind your character. So... the best thing to do is...... Don't throw a bubble as Yi gets close to try to prevent him from reaching you. He's probably in alpha range by the time you do, and he will probably just use it. Throw your bubble as Yi is Alpha striking you. on yourself. Slightly aimed behind you. You will 100% catch yi, which gives you 1.5 seconds to create some distance, which your bubble just procced your passive on yourself, so that's easy. You can apply this trick vs your allies too, if Yi is after them instead. It's not worth ulting Yi, because he won't be slowed.

And ofc, if you're vs a Yasuo or Braum .... save your ult for when their walls are down. keep an eye on them for those opportunities.

I wouldn't ever use Nami vs Akali. Akali you use something like Sona. non target stun. Zyra can trade her 1:1 but it's iffy. Morg's probably better than both.

Zone of Endless1 votes

lol

spaghëtti1 votes

idk how hardstuck you are but maybe try a new acc if your mmr really is that screwed I'm not a high elo player myself but climbing in low elo with support wouldn't be that hard if your skill level in general is higher than your current elo

if you're talking about just climbing in low elo then I would suggest you to not play healers like Soraka

here are some champions that imo is a ticket out of bronze as long as you can hit skillshots :Nami JannaLux Morgana

...from my experience, I do get noticed when I make good plays and our play style is most certainly not "making sacrifices" nor have I ever been flamed just for playing support or taking 1 kill

...this reminded me of that time when I accidentally took 2 kills or something and my adc was 0/0/5 and said "I love playing support" xdddd

Savior781 votes

Well I want to thank you all for the tips and information as I have began climbing as Lulu I'm on a 8-2 w/l streak and climbing consistently I am also using Nami and Braum but only if my team needs a tank and my adc's are able to execute his passive fast enough otherwise 1 tricking Lulu

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