Thornmail updata indirectly nerf aatrox to a even worst situation and it need to fix ASAP

MorinoZannen·7/20/2017, 2:13:03 AM·2 votes·485 views

As the change of thornmail in 7.14

it basically give all tank champ a good counter item to fight those auto attack life stealing champion

it decrease attack speed , reflect damage , wounds the target

i mean , seriously ?

decrease attack speed is fine

BUT reflect damage plus wounds just offset all the regen of aatrox

even somehow aatrox manage to get a huge advantage like first blood

enemy just buy that stupid 900gold small thronmail plus that stupid ninja tabi then aatrox just lose every matchup without any skill involved

if any riot staff see this please , just please hot fix this stupid thing<-i mean aatrox not thronmail

13 Comments

AR URF7/20/2017, 2:14:25 AM1 votes

no please no buffs to passive. It's supposed to be punishing to attack tanks. That's why they made thornmail this way.

4th Shot Killer7/20/2017, 2:16:31 AM1 votes

It's not an issue with thornmail...It's an issue with Aatrox himself, he needs a rework badly.

KaRniVooL137/20/2017, 2:26:48 AM1 votes

so a champ who has a toggle passive on an ability who heals on autos and builds lifesteal items and takes vampirism mastery with a passive that brings him back from death is completely countered by item 3075 ?

i just want to understand

that Aatrox that builds item 3153 item 3812 item 3071 item 3748 item 3065 item 3047 is countered by item 3075 ?

MorinoZannen7/20/2017, 2:50:59 AM1 votes

i agree this thornmail change to stop fiora hard snowballing and give tank a flex choice against late game ADC , cause the are in the META right?

but this change is also affected aatrox , a donut champion basiclly just auto attack all the time no matter you play him as a tank or a bruiser

the way of this update is healthy , but not to aatrox itself

every change like this deserve a balance

it most effected is fiora who dominated top lane for a long time

recent patches also nerf she a few time

and now every matchup right now she will face up to a thronmail tank

which make her cant kill tank under tower that easy compare to post-patch

but with her kit she still can pressure the enemy team hard

enemy team still need 2 man to kill her which is punishing

so she is much more "healty" in RIOT's term

second is mid-to-late game ADC

ADC will still have time to build life stealing item , armor pen , or bork to get through thronmail

in teamfighting mid to late game wound+reflect don't make much difference for a team to melt a tank

but aatrox is difference

he will get destroy early just because the thronmail

his ability kit is all around auto attack , his passive , w , ult

once the enemy buy 900$ thronmail plus tabi

he will lose every fight , every trade , at the end , he will just get zone out every time

and if it like crazy outplay , mechanics and aatrox lose the lane , it make sence

but no , this have 0 skill involved

Calabok7/20/2017, 4:23:55 AM1 votes

that guy is fine. dont do anything to him or thornmail