Kennen feedback from a master teir Kennen main

Mr Gimix·6/18/2015, 8:18:38 PM·4 votes·1,163 views

Many who read this post probably won't know who I am, but for the few that do, you know that I have played a LOT of Kennen games (getting pretty close to 2000 now) since season 3, and while I still have a lot of room for improvement in my mastery of Kennen, and my playstyle in general, I was able to gain a solid grasp of Kennen's strengths and weaknesses over the past few years. In this post I will summarize the problems and possible solutions to Kennen's kit, which will hopefully be taken into consideration if a red just so happens to pass through.

My primary concern with Kennen is that he is far too reliant on the flash summoner. If you pick Kennen in champion select, your only plausible option is to select flash as one of your summoners or you are hindering yourself to such an extreme extent that you would be nothing more than useless in the mid-endgame. While flash gives other champions a slight 'boost' in their kit's effectiveness, it is an absolute necessity on Kennen that provides him with quite a large amount of power. The problem with this is that enemies can also just flash away or use another means of mobility/disruption (dash/teleport/KNOCKBACK) to completely nullify his only means of landing a great ultimate, leaving the Kennen player powerless for the next few minutes, which brings me to my next point.

!PLEASE RIOT! Rework Kennen's E!

Kennen's E is the gateway to making him a viable champion. Many will argue that his Q needs to travel through creeps with reduced damage, do aoe damage, or anything to make it a viable poke tool equivalent to that of ANY other mage, or that his W needs better scaling, since the base damage is already so low (185 at rank 5 with .55 scaling), but I firmly believe that the only way to make Kennen truly viable is to completely rework his Lightning Rush.

Currently, Lightning Rush is as showed:

Active: For 3 seconds Kennens base movement speed is increased by 310. He also gains the ability to pass through units, dealing magic damage to all enemy units in the process, restoring 40 energy from the first enemy he hits. This ability only deals 50% damage to minions. Additionally, for 4 seconds Kennens armor and magic resistance are increased.While Lightning Rush is active, he can activate it again, to cancel the first part of the ability.

Cost: 100/95/90/85/80 energy Cooldown: 10/9/8/7/6 seconds Magic Damage: 85/125/165/205/245 (+0.6 per ability power) Armor and Magic Resistance Bonus: 10/20/30/40/50

The current lightning rush has many problems. Firstly, It's too damn slow! If you try to play Kennen mid lane against other mage and you decide to rush your enemy with your E, you'll take so much harass before you're even able reach them, forcing you to use your E completely defensively or to simply reposition yourself. The amount of time it takes for you to reach your opponent in any scenario is so long that they have such an immense amount of time to plan and react to your engage.

Secondly, the defensive portion on Lightning rush is inadequate. At rank 5 it provides 50 armor and magic resist, roughly around ~1500 gold worth of stats for 4 seconds, but when a Kennen wants to maximize damage (by building zhonias/deathcap/abyssal/voidstaff) it leaves very little room for effective health. For those of you who may or may not know, simply stacking defensive stats without any health is rather ineffective.

Lastly, The ability does 50% less damage to minions. Why... Honestly, Why! There's absolutely no reason for this ability, which requires you to put yourself into such a dangerous position as a squishy mage to do 50% less damage to minions. Many mages can waveclear with one ability (or at least kill the caster creeps in one move) at lvl 9, whereas Kennen has a hard time clearing the back wave with his E and W combined (even with W at rank 5).

Possible Solutions:

  • Make the ability do full damage to minions. This is a bare minimum plead.

  • Change the defensive portion on the ability to grant a shield instead of bonus Armor/MR. A shield will grant Kennen the effective health he needs when building essential items such as Zhonias Hourglass and Abyssal Scepter.

  • Rework the mobility on Lightning Rush.

    • Give it more movement speed, shorter duration
  • Change the ability to work like Vi's Q, a charging dash that explodes on arrival and grants a decaying movement speed buff on full charge.
  • Grant stacking movement speed depending on the amount of champions/minions (friendly and enemy) you have traveled through.
  • Grant a blink upon player deactivation, rapidly decreasing in distance based on how long the ability has been active for. (give it an indicator similar to varus Q, but reversed)

5 Comments

Original Quitter6/18/2015, 8:26:09 PM1 votes

You mean Kennen isn't an ADC? ( he actualy is pretty hilairously good at the role)

Seriously tho:

My primary concern with Kennen is that he is far too reliant on the flash summoner. If you pick Kennen in champion select, your only plausible option is to select flash as one of your summoners or you are hindering yourself to such an extreme extent that you would be nothing more than useless in the mid-endgame. While flash gives other champions a slight 'boost' in their kit's effectiveness, it is an absolute necessity on Kennen that provides him with quite a large amount of power.

A lot of champions are in this same boat, I would argue then Kennen does not really need flash to do his job properly more than many other champs. Even Alistar, who can do his job without flash is FAR more potent with flash, just to use the worst example I could think of.

Also I think you may want to look at the new core AP tree changes, it looks like Ken will see some indirect buffs allowing him to get considerably more hp than he gets now plus additional effects from the item while having the same AP level as before.

They just went up on surr@20

If you ask me all they need to do is make his Rush skill more of an uncontrollable straight line dash that gives him XXX hp shield per enemy hit and X% increased run speed for X seconds and ditch the AR/MR component. Give him a tool to dive, a small assist to run out after and make him rely on stunning properly and zhonyas to survive his dives with just enough of a shield to not get 100-0 on the way in from a single enemy, 80% of the time.

That or change all his ratios to HP based and make him a cc tank bot. (T_T)

TiniNinja2/3/2016, 6:07:56 PM1 votes

Digging this up from the grave. Please notice me senpai! I'm a huge fan of all your old videos and how you've adapted through the current meta.

Anyways, although this is from 8 months ago, it's still holds true today. Kennen received several nerfs two years ago, then didn't get a damn thing (besides a slight change to ult+w interaction) that entire time.

Yenn2/3/2016, 8:19:55 PM1 votes

News at 11. Kennen's kit hasn't kept up with the game.