ok i love darius he is so much fun to play.. if you never want to die and just reck shop as a full tank. this latest update to him has made him so overpowerd that no top laner can fight him whatsoever. so please rito. do something to nerf him.
Dunkrius2g10 votesIm getting tired of these threads.
Darius Decimate (Q) heal per champion hit reduced to 12% from 15% Decimate (Q) [Maximum heal increased to 36% from 30%] Decimate (Q) mana cost increased to 30/35/40/45/50 from 30 at all ranks.
http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html#balance
We all know he needs nerfs. Wait patiently.
CppL30 votesIm getting tired of these threads.
Darius Decimate (Q) heal per champion hit reduced to 12% from 15% Decimate (Q) [Maximum heal increased to 36% from 30%] Decimate (Q) mana cost increased to 30/35/40/45/50 from 30 at all ranks.
http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html#balance
We all know he needs nerfs. Wait patiently.
Why the hell they gave him compensation? he doesnt need one .just straight nerf.
Dunkrius2g2 votesTo attain 36% you need to hit 3 guys. If u hit 2 people you will get 24%. Live is 30% with 2 people. Why they are adding Compensation, who knows. Wait for 5.17 patch to see whether they go through with this change or not.
A Miss Fortune16 votesWhy does a Juggernaut even have % health healing with all that he has in his kit lol.
KONO RUBICK DA3 votes[{quoted}](name=A Miss Fortune,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RdUNIHv8,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2015-09-12T14:21:11.979+0000)
Why does a Juggernaut even have % health healing with all that he has in his kit lol.
they nerfed his damage, if he didn't have a heal the rework would be a joke.
he exchanged damage for sustain in fight. but if he manages to get 5 stacks on you god knows your team will survive. I call that counterplay. Now the heal makes him unkillable and it's nerfed in the next patch.
RisenDarkKnight5 votesHe doesn't even need to get 5 stacks on you to kill you though :(. His passive triggers whenever he gets a kill with ult, so if say syndra/veigar ults someone and gets them super low he can just ult then he can just auto each person once and do tons of damage with the 5 stacks of passive + bonus ad + max damage ult.
stabby himiko2 votes"They nerfed his damage" His Q scales with more AD. Literally a darius will go full tank and then get a titantic hydra the hp into AD is bs,and his Q literally can 2 shot you.
LordGeovanni1 votesexcept titanic doesnt convert hp into ad
stabby himiko1 votesWell HP into bonus physical damage. Which is still literally bs. "On-hit you deal 5 (+1% of your maximum health) bonus physical damage to your target and 40 (+2.5% of your maximum health) physical damage to all enemies in a cone behind them. (385 range)." ON-HIT,i believe that this means that onhit of any attack. which includes his Q and R.
LordGeovanni1 votesthat is bs only basic attacks and spells that proc on hit effects proc titanic and darius only has 1 spell that procs on hit effects and that is his w ill admit titanic's active is far to high but full tank darius cant wreck a team unless you not working together of you a team of 5 supports
stabby himiko1 votes'spells' his Q and his R are spells. Also Titantic Hydra is different from ravenous. Titantic procs on spells too. Not to mention,even if Darius dies early in teamfights,there are still other teammates,it doesn't have to be 5 supports. Literally even an unfed team,with a 3/4 darius will be able to lower enemies enough in teamfights,and allow the unfed team, to be fed. Darius is now a broken juggernaut carry,and darius' early game? Just as broken as his late game. Which the juggernauts,i believe is mean to have them have ok early games,and op late game. But at the very least,they are nerfing his heal to 12% missing hp per champ,max 3. So it should be fine for now.
Loken Stoneheart2 votes[{quoted}](name=A Miss Fortune,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RdUNIHv8,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2015-09-12T14:21:11.979+0000)
Why does a Juggernaut even have % health healing with all that he has in his kit lol.
Because they nerfed him across the board and then gave him a stupid fucking heal, (no, increasing AD scaling on Q doesn't count as a buff if they destroy his W's damage and nerf his Attack speed to abysmal levels, as well as put a 1 second delay on his Q that anyone with half a brain can avoid by literally just walking towards or away from him)
New Darius isn't even fun, and IMHO isn't even good. The only thing, the ONLY thing he has going for him is stupid sustain, and that shouldn't be a thing.
Buff his damage back up, remove the heal. Hell, revert the changes, they weren't even good.
LordGeovanni2 voteswhy do adcs have range high damage cc and speed boosts riot makes no sense with makeing their champions they just want diversity but they have little concern for balance
RisenDarkKnight4 votesOk but that's as much heal as ekko ult on a 3 second cooldown with max cdr. It's often easy to hit mulitple people unless the enemy is playing very spreadout in teamfights.
Cosmic Warper2 votesWhy the hell they gave him compensation? he doesnt need one .just straight nerf.
The only compensation is if he hits 3 targets, before that it's a straight nerf. It's a good change since it'll reduce his healing when being ganked and in lane, but is a small buff to his teamfighting. It's a good change.
Dextix LT4 votesIm sorry, but is this supposed to mean something? This is almost the same bullshit 5 ad nerf that kayle received.
These are token nerfs that will do next to nothing! Why dont they just nerf him by 1 ad and be done with it at this rate...
Dunkrius2g1 votesHey i don't mind if they totally nerf him. Hes just a space for being banned, thats all.
RisenDarkKnight3 votesThat isn't really a nerf they increased the maximum heal i.e. the main thing we are complaining about. Yeah giving his q a mana cost is nice, but it's still quite low so he probably won't go oom.
Feindbild1 votesStill waiting
Dunkrius2g1 votesThen you will be waiting for an eternity to actually see a big nerf for Darius.
blank4201 votesstill didnt happen until season 7
Critmaster Garen5 votesor youre playing the wrong top laners.
RisenDarkKnight4 votesThe problem isn't that he's impossible to beat in lane (he's probably easier to beat now than before since his q has a delay). The problem is that in teamfights you can't focus him because he a huge heal and builds super tanky, but you need to because he'll do tons of damage and reset it on kills.
Guy Fox Teemo5 votesWhy do QQ threads like this get upvoted? If your going to make a complaint about a champion being nerfed or buff, provide some insight on why they should not just "GG TO OP DELETED ME IN 1 seconds Hur dur derrr"
Sniper 04 votesGaren needs it more though. ;p
Ryot Nomad2 votesGaren dies at some point and garen is mainly single target. Darius is the AD kata with 9 lives. Just q e w r then r r r r
PENTAKILl!!
terkmc1 votesnice job, you just Dunked someone without Noxian Might and the enemy has only two stack on them. If you actually killed them id be surprised
RisenDarkKnight2 votesIt's pretty easy to kill them since it's a teamfight and you have 3-4 teammates blowing their cooldowns to help you focus down your target...
LordGeovanni1 votesin team fights the adc and middle lane assassin/mage and jungle all trying to take kills so even if it would be better for you to get the kills you cant teamwork isnt common in this game
FastAsHeck2 voteshis mid-late game is fine, his laning needs a nerf (I 1v2'd with the enemy top+jungler the other day).
stealthfox942 votesHe should be fine after the PBE nerfs.
Cosmic Warper1 votesHe should be fine after the PBE nerfs.
Agreed. His mana costs need tuning, and the pbe changes address that. He should be gated by mana a bit, because if he has such low mana costs ( on live) then there's no point to even giving him mana costs in the first place since he'll never run out.
LordGeovanni1 voteshe does run out of mana and even more so with his ult.
Beoridas2 voteshes **among **the strongest champ in the game atm. Imo its really the heal that got out of hand because the dmg buffs werent really that big or game changing specially considering how much he sucked when released. But i think that nerf is too weak since they compensate him (altho harder to get right) aka 3 blades hit.
Cosmic Warper2 voteshes the strongest champ in the game atm. Imo its really the heal that got out of hand because the dmg buffs werent really that big or game changing specially considering how much he sucked when released. But i think that nerf is too weak since they compensate him (altho harder to get right) aka 3 blades hit.
Strongest in the game? Hell no.... one of the strongest melees in the game? Yes
OneExit2 votesSo someone else gets to make a thread like this it's front page of the boards, but when I try to I get down-voted to oblivion... Thanks guys...
The Loveless3 votesBandwagon mentality. See upvote? You upvote. See downvote? You downvote.
BuzzinTate2 votesOr you make like 10 spare accounts and just get +11 immediately and then the band wagon affect holds you in place
Of course youd have to go through the effort of making multiple accounts
Friendly Ram2 votesDar dar binks will always be obnoxious. Let us unite in our crusade to sacrifice him to teemo.
BruisingEmu1 votesIt looks like the changes are targeted to hurt his lane a bit. But I don't think it will be noticeable enough. 3% health won't be too much of a difference during laning phase since his health will still be relatively low. The mana change might make a bit of a difference, but I'm not expecting much. I'll have to see it.
Honestly I just think it should be more punishing for him to miss his Q. His identity has always been lane bully. But they want to make him into somebody who can do that and also scale into a rolling locomotive in late game. Which would be ok, if it wasn't so damn safe to be Darius right now.
I think you should be rewarded more for baiting it out of him. He should be punished more for missing it. Maybe a some mana refund on hit at a higher total mana cost. Or just a flat higher mana cost. Or perhaps a higher cooldown, but compensation so it's more potent when it lands. Just thoughts
42568152DEL11 votesOK-his laning phase is weaker,but what was Darius in the begining-a beast that could ult you 5 times if needed-didn't have a cooldown on that ult. He had enormous damage and yes he would win every game and so riot turned him into a useless early game piece of shit that at best would be strong until level 13 if fed. Late game he was useless. And all the strong champs against him-riven,renekton,teemo,even garen would fuck his ass hard. When I was playing him before everyone would tell me-oh troll pick,no darius,pick someone else-I did well at the price of sustain-I build full ad so I could still do damage and not fall off. When he got reworked and good players started doing shit with him everyone was omg nerf. WILL YOU SHUT UP. Attack speed got nerfed,base damage of the q got nerfed-scaling is good and if you do some calculations you will see that the old base damage at level 9 is compensated now at level 18. The w-stronger at level 1,which makes it a great weapon early game but doesn't go beyond 40 percent. e unchanged-gives a slow and the bug with the pull is fixed. Ult 160 old damage,100 new 250 old 200 new and 340 old 300 new. And yes if you get 5 stacks your w will do similar damage to the old 100 percent increase,your q will be stronger and you will apply max stacks-which helps with the ult damage but what is so broken damn it-he is viable,he is strong,but the inner circle of the q does NOT give you a stack anymore,just dodge-sometimes you won't but still......
Enflame1 votesDarius is probably the most unfun champion to play against in soloq. If you're not playing one of the two champions that actually have a chance of beating him, you're going to lose lane badly and have a horrible time doing it.
MalzaharAnyLane1 votesOr you stick a mid laner against him and not care. Preferably Syndra/Orianna/Malzahar/Brand.
You know, people who are good at burning him down, harassing him, and still have enough CC to participate in dragon fights via teleport...
LordGeovanni1 votesVayne and kalista are with out a doubt the most unfun characters to play against in the entire game. and lucain comes around in 4-5 for the same reasons they do
moomoomilkUwU1 votesThe only top laner that can lane against him is Garen, who is also severly OP right now.
Vincent Lucius1 votesWait... was this intended? Noxus vs Demacia? The two unstoppable juggernauts of Runeterra?
Conturbatio1 votesHe gains 200 bonus AD from his passive at lvl 18... that's bullsh*t
Hyohyun1 votesYes, Darius is my most banned champion in ranked games and why not just nerf him like they did to 
. Make it fair for everyone.(
)
Slack King1 votesJax and irelia shit on him
CleanAs1 votesStill waiting for that nerf! :D
