Rito should rework Veigar's ult.

scribbles782··2 votes·590 views

Veigar's ult is SO simple. Now i'm not complaining that it's OP (it is btw) but there is just so much missing potential.

Veigar is literally just a mage. No niche to fill or anything. the potential of his ultimate knows no bounds, but all it is now is a one shot button.

They could include an ult that is A: More Fun or B: Actually has counterplay or C: All of the above.

And the fact that late game if you get caught in his stun you're dead, that's just not okay. (Assuming you don't have QSS/Cleanse)

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Morgenštern2 votes

It'd be really cool to get him a more unique ultimate. Like something more aoe with CC, and basically more damage with counterplay. I don't know where the real balance is, as Veigar isn't really a good champ, but as I often find myself in a position like if I get Veigar's ult I die, and I'm in low elo so I don't dodge good, my team lose, so I hope it'd help low elo players, which are the number and what rito should focus on.

Wráthful1 votes

Mr is a decent counter now aside of the jokes veig is simple and his counter is playing smart enough to not get hit by the stun cuz veig's r byitself cannot 1shot. veig is in a decent state atm it will be a mistake to changehim w/o reasoning behind it for now just nerf janna champ with 50+% pick rate and almost 70% ban rate in diamond challenger not veig a champ with 5-10% pick rate and mediocore winrate

scribbles7821 votes

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Mr is a decent counter now aside of the jokes veig is simple and his counter is playing smart enough to not get hit by the stun cuz veig's r byitself cannot 1shot. veig is in a decent state atm it will be a mistake to changehim w/o reasoning behind it for now just nerf janna champ with 50+% pick rate and almost 70% ban rate in diamond challenger not veig a champ with 5-10% pick rate and mediocore winrate

Okay, I'm not saying Veigar's ult is broken persay. Hell, this rework could be an overall buff for all I care. I think think it needs to be something cooler. people are saying Star Guardian Miss Fortune is wasted potential because they didn't put a fucking hat on her? Yah right.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Shádow Wárrior,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RdJylAef,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-08-24T19:13:09.736+0000)

Mr is a decent counter now aside of the jokes veig is simple and his counter is playing smart enough to not get hit by the stun cuz veig's r byitself cannot 1shot. veig is in a decent state atm it will be a mistake to changehim w/o reasoning behind it for now just nerf janna champ with 50+% pick rate and almost 70% ban rate in diamond challenger not veig a champ with 5-10% pick rate and mediocore winrate

Erh, Q+R can definitely oneshot later in the game.

Wráthful1 votes

idk m8's if they gonna change something it will be a full overhaul of veigar's abilities but it wont happen soon too many champs are on the way of getting a rework (riot made a post not long ago about 10 champs that are likely to get reworked) and there are many more waiting for changes

Serika Zero1 votes

"no niche" bro, i HATE facing veigar in team fights due to his stupid aoe stun....... he has a niche: anti ap monster team fight mage

CoughzKima1 votes

Sigh.. okay so let's go hauling back old Veigar with an ult that scaled harshly and scaled also on a targets AP and give him mana back so that he never has to leave lane and leave his q to stack.

Veigar where he is at the moment is perfectly fine and balanced. His aoe got removed from an instant cast to a delayed ability that nearly anyone can escape from because of how telegraphed it is that he is going to drop the damn thing. If you are an AP laner you can just either buy a zhonya or banshee veil and hope to god the veil is up in time to block it or you can zhonya in time to negate it if you are far enough from the ult to react cause of its travel time. If you are an AD laner than either get yourself a guardian angel and hope your flash is up to dodge the aoe or get yourself a qss for his cage to escape or buy an edge of night and time your active right.

In norms, Veigar is placed at 22nd with a 12.04% pick rate according to op.gg and in ranked he is placed at 52 with a 7.65% pick rate across all ranks, this shows that his selection rates are too small too worry about in needing to give him an update but out of that tiny selection group are the niche players that can play him real well and just have better reactionary timing or frames to win lane vs you on skill alone or get extremely lucky via camps or in team fights. Veigar is also in a position where so many items allow to you to live through his burst, that he might as well have a 0.01% pick rate because of people using said items or too many champions who are given free mobility that they shouldn't have in the first place end up escaping via dashes, leaps or jumps.

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