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"PSA: I hate Kalista players" and other misguided Kalista complaints from "support mains"

Juhnie·11/25/2014, 12:53:34 PM·4 votes·2,794 views

I'm sure pretty much everyone who reads the Boards has already noticed that people's current favourite pastime activity is whining about how terrible supporting Kalista is. Here's what I think of all the complaining and bitching.

ALL KALISTAS ARE RETARDS AND RUIN MY GAMEPLAY BY ULTING ME AT TERRIBLE TIMES We're all people. People fuck up. I don't think most of the Kalistas intentionally grab their support to fuck up what they are doing. More likely, the Kalista probably read the situation differently and decided that they needed a knockup right that very moment.

And so what if she did grab you at a wrong time? Just dash for the knockup and continue on with what you're doing. It's not like she prisons you in the ulti for the rest of the fight.

OMG, KALISTA CAN FORCIBLY SOULBIND ME/WHY DOESN'T THIS IDIOT KALISTA BIND WITH THE JUNGLER INSTEAD, OMG Why exactly shouldn't Kalista bind with her support...?

Fate's Call is not purely an initiation tool. It can save the support from a gank/misposition or easily win a 2v2 skirmish with the extra burst of CC. Tell Kalista to wait until you have used up your cooldowns. Ta da, you can still be relevant even though your entire kit is on cooldown. Again, if she misuses it by activating it too early, just use the insane CC provided and continue on normally.

Not binding with the support also makes Kalista's W passive completely obsolete. 12% max HP burst activated by simply autoattacking the same target (or the support's AA + Pierce). Can be easily procced by ranged supports for poke and by melee supports for extra burst during an all-in. Yet some people do not want this. Guess free broken damage isn't everybody's thing.

KALISTA SHOULDN'T BIND WITH ME, I'M A SQUISHY SUPPORT, WHY WOULD I WANT TO END UP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ENEMY TEAM? Yeah... Except you won't end up in the middle of anything. If you collide with a target during Fate's Call's dash, you are placed at your maximum AA range from the first target hit. Perfect position for, say, Sona, Nami or Lulu to continue their onslaught of CC from.

Squishies are also usually more capable to proc Sentinel than melee tanks. Seriously, the passive damage is broken. Abuse it.

KALISTA'S ULTI IS TOXIC BECAUSE THE SUPPORT CAN'T DECIDE WHEN THEY ARE PULLED AND KALISTA CAN'T DECIDE WHEN THE SUPPORT IS THROWN Probably the stupidest thing I've read so far. Teamwork. Learn2.

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Kalista is a champion with insane amounts of power packed in her, yet locked behind the impossible-for-some-to-pass barrier of requiring a certain level of teamwork and, most importantly, TRUST between the bound pair. Maybe you complaining "support mains" have trouble trusting your ADC? You treat them like a retard, playing with the attitude of "I'm gonna have to carry this scrub to win this game because I'm the main character of this anime and I'm the only good player on my team!!!!111"?

Yeah. No wonder Kalista and whoever plays her seems to suck to you. Maybe an attitude check could help?

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Personally I think she is extremely fun to play with and the level of synergy you can achieve with her is amazing. The champ is probably broken. I'm waiting with dread for someone to truly learn her.

LET THE "KALISTA PLAYERS SUCK" CIRCLEJERK OF DOWNVOTES BEGIN

(Disclaimer: any weird words or typos are caused by my phone's stupid autocorrect)

12 Comments

disregardable11/25/2014, 1:18:17 PM5 votes

KALISTA PLAYERS SUCK circle jerks

But seriously. The common theme throughout the post is "just deal with whatever I decide to do, you have no choice, and if you disagree with that you're stupid". That's not really how League of Legends is supposed to work.

Tsunday11/25/2014, 1:27:23 PM4 votes

Honestly my problem isn't playing with Kalista, my problem is picking before Kalista and asking if there's a particular support they want me to play or a ADC they want to play and then them not saying anything and going Kalista. I will totally play Janna into your Kalista, I love Nami into Kalista. Lulu and Sona and most other supports are fine. But going a mage support like Karma or Orianna? Playing 4/0/26 Karma support with a Kalista is not fun, especially when you have everything on cooldown. Even if you don't have everything on CD I'd much rather not waste my shield to get away from my own initiation.

More than that I hate when I'm playing someone I don't feel comfortable going Kalista with (someone I want Relic Shield on or a Mage) and then they're like 'I know how to Kalista' and lock in anyway. Bro I trust you know how to Kalista, I'm sure we'll do some crazy damages with your passive, I'm sure you'll have some crazy kite, but going Leona and knowing that I can't get Relic Shield procs off and there's not another good start for me (either I'm A not able to take a gp5 item or B squishy as balls) just isn't where I want to be, especially not in solo queue.

I absolutely love playing with Kalista's and as Kalista. I'm the full retard support who blindly believes that my team is going to follow up and if you pull my 9 times out of 10 I'm going to (tard) charge right back in. I play Kalista with friends on voice com and sometimes they're like 'oh crap she's gonna die' and so they pick me up and the enemy Nidalee has 500hp so I ult into her with my 150hp. I'm not normally that daring with Randoms but even if I know I'm going to die if I think Kalista can get the kill or if it'll save Kalista (especially if I don't know that she can kite away) I'm 100% trusting of her and willing to jump in with any support I feel I have adequate skills on. I think Soraka is probably the only traditional support who would feel sucky being thrown, honestly.

Yxion the Yordle11/25/2014, 1:18:27 PM4 votes

I think the main issue people have with her is that Riot released a champion that by all accounts require a level of teamwork (and trust as you said) not found in the general League community. Therefore she is more toxic then anything. I like her. I think it will be amazing to see her used in a pro competitive setting and look forward to that if it happens but I can feel where others are coming from. I would never touch her unless I am duo queuing with a friend of mine. That doesn't sound like something that makes sense to have in league.

MrSc0tty11/25/2014, 5:35:22 PM3 votes

Yeah, here's the problem: every Kallista I've played with so far has been a retard, and the majority of ADC players are retards. That's why they have to play the most broken class in the game while also requiring a personal manservant so they don't feed every two seconds. They have the most mobile escape heavy champs in the game yet they can't survive a teamfight without peel or a lane phase without dying to ganks.

Kallista has every single thing that I hate in an ADC kit. She has a dash so she can jump cockily into the enemy team and get obliterated while I'm out of range. She has stacking damage/cc she can not trigger because she's greedy and wants muh damage. She has the temptation to start SS or even shudder Beserkers Greaves, dooming her lane to death by wasting all the gold I worked to get her. She has one skillshot to miss and another skillshot I have to literally land for her because it's too hard to expect ADC players to use their own freaking kits.

It just rubs me the wrong way that ADC players have been Down Syndroming past my lanterns for a year and a half now and the first time an ADC gets released that requires my input, I don't get a choice because it would be inconvenient for Riots Little Babies.

Mikal Pikal11/25/2014, 8:07:48 PM3 votes

First of all, people don't like the loss of agency/free will involved. Kallista chooses you and you have no choice in the matter. Luckily 99% of the time the support would want to be soulbound anyways...but supports already have an identity crisis with the lack of agency in that they are perceived to be at the beck and call of the support...Kallista amplifies this 10x.

The other problem is how her ult works. Yes it can interrupt what I was trying to do. Yes it can be poorly timed. Yes to all of this...but it can also be a really good tool to engage, disengage, CC, etc. My problem, which I hope will be fixed is the jarring effect it has. I am almost always surprised by it, which is amplified by the fact that the screen turns grey (like I'm dead) and the view changes to fixed camera centered on Kallista. You can move the view after that, but it is disorienting when I was looking somewhere else completely.

I have no problem with Kallista players and don't think they are intentionally trolling. I just HATE getting ulted in solo queue. It sucks. I have no control, feel disoriented, and more often than not it messed up what I was trying to do.

DexterousGecko11/25/2014, 1:26:49 PM3 votes

I hate kalista. anytime i have to support, i just run away from kalista and yell at her not to bind me to her. it's worked so far. she gets fed up and binds some other poor sap.

Goodiew11/25/2014, 1:45:06 PM2 votes

I dont agree with everything op says but I do agree on the fact that there are way too many whiny threads about Kalista being toxic or bad for soloque. People need to use brain and have trust for each other when using Kalista. Is that not what leagueoflegends is at its Best?

Volt Cruelerz11/25/2014, 2:04:49 PM2 votes

And for the Vel'koz supports out there that get yanked out of their ults?

COWMANOFCOWS12/23/2014, 9:58:31 PM1 votes

Lols I was playing urgot kalista bot but she was way to scared of fighting. She would only ult memout of fights never whenni could engage :/. At one point she pulls me out when she starts to run away from a 2v2. I was tanking everything so I had supper low hp but after only a moment I jusmp back in and finish what I was doing with a double kill as she ran away. Admittedly I couldnt have done it without the knockup but she had half hp and could have gotten herself a kill or too. Im not sour about it cause I got the double and we ended up winning but i am annoying that she wouldnt learn. I kept telling her in chat over and ober how much stronger our all in was but she would never ult me. Litterallly any time the enemy adc went for a cs I wanted h er to ult me. I kept wards so it was safe, I communicated, I helped win all our skirmishes to get her kills to make up for her bad cs score and still she failed to learn what we needed to do.

I dont really know what im tryna say her im just ranting. I didnt cuss out my adc in that game or anything. I just like it when my team tries as hard as me.