EAST COAST deserves a legitimate update @Riot

we stay high·Nov 3, 2014·139 votes·7,335 views

East coast and surrounding areas have been ignored for far too long. We deserve an actual update on this issue and considering you have accumulated in excess of $ONE BILLION USD as of 2014 there is NO excuse for this blatantly unprofessional behavior from a company of this caliber.If you can't admit that the Chinese company,Tencent which owns Riot,refuses to provide funding to the NA region or whatever the case may be;WE DESERVE AN ANSWER. China has TWENTY SEVEN servers throughout their country,while NA,which is running off of ONE SERVER doesn't deserve at least a centralized server to balance the ping disadvantage where the vast majority of people in NA live?

I for one have already given up on playing with a constant ping over 140,but this won't stop me from making a post every single day until these PAYING CUSTOMERS get the recognition and treatment they deserve which is around FIVE YEARS over-due.

Shame on this stingy ,parsimonious company for further establishing that they care about nothing more than filling their pockets with customers money while spitting in their face and feeding them false hopes for an unjustifiably long period.

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159 Comments

NoraverNov 3, 201427 votes

Guys, Riot already said they're going to move their server, relax. In a few weeks they're moving it down the street. Our ping will be 139.99999999 instead of 140. Isn't that enough for you people? Riot is so totally the victim here. They're doing their best! :c They care about their customers! :^)

Seriously though? 27 servers in China? What the actual fuck Riot.

OnegarionNov 3, 20147 votes

While we should have more servers in NA there are also a lot more people in China and Riot themselves don't directly manage them.

Nucleophilic atkNov 3, 20143 votes

Yeah, also, China is pretty fucking big lol. Using the amount of servers there to justify here isn't exactly good reasoning.

OnegarionNov 3, 201414 votes

Actually USA/Canada/China are about the same in total area. So its not really a good factor especially when you consider Canada/USA being then twice the total area of China. Really we should have more servers just based off the total area.

http://www.nationsonline.org/oneworld/countries_by_area.htm says that Canada is 6.7%, USA 6.5%, and China 6.4% of earths area. So really we should have more servers because of this and having to cover 2 countries. Where it comes in favor of China though is population. China has about 1.3 billion to USA 319 Million and 35.5 Million in Canada. So by population we don't need as many but when you do the math that means there is 1 server for every 50,654,074 people. If we wanted the same for USA AND Canada we should have 7 servers for both USA and Canada for the same size population. So by area we should techincally have double the Servers, but with proper placement we can ignore area and focus on population making it so we should have 7 servers for Na (USA and Canada).

commit an heroNov 3, 20146 votes

Seriously though? 27 servers in China? What the actual fuck Riot.

Except you know, it's not like a huge stock holder (cough Tencent) is the reason why they have 27 servers in China.

XonraNov 4, 20147 votes

Guys, Riot already said they're going to move their server, relax. In a few weeks they're moving it down the street. Our ping will be 139.99999999 instead of 140. Isn't that enough for you people? Riot is so totally the victim here. They're doing their best! :c They care about their customers! :^)

Seriously though? 27 servers in China? What the actual fuck Riot.

Lol yeah and about a month ago that dude posting saying the server movement would actually have zero impact on ping, but they are "still looking into options". In other words they are in no hurry. I mean, it is obviously more important to work on getting Scuttle Crab ready for the next season.

And yes I realize the people working on the jungle for 2015 aren't eh network guys but to be quite frank, they don't seem to be doing anything else (the Network team). As someone with a friggin degree in Networking I know for a fact there is absolutely no reason they can't fix this issue or that they haven't already. I've been playing since 2011 and my ping has only increased.

Started at 80, now I'm up around 120. More people have joined and they have done nothing to make it better, while also trying to blame internet companies because....it is totally their fault Riot are greedy bastards lol

NonplayercharNov 3, 201419 votes

Riot...At least let us know why?

DerpstaticNov 3, 201439 votes

Riot...At least let us know why?

They have looked at the opportunity cost, and determined the cost to add/maintain new servers would not bring in enough additional profit to justify them.

See also: Greed Apathy

NonplayercharNov 3, 20147 votes

I don't know about anyone else here but I think I would be more willing and supportive of a company that actually cares about all of its customers. I'm not sure how much hosting another server would cost, but if there was a skin where its profit was put into a West coast server, I would buy it in a heartbeat.

KijitowNov 3, 20144 votes

Riot...At least let us know why?

They have looked at the opportunity cost, and determined the cost to add/maintain new servers would not bring in enough additional profit to justify them.

See also: Greed Apathy

I wish this wasn't the answer. It upsets me that it is.

soulbanana8Nov 3, 20149 votes

Riot...At least let us know why?

They have looked at the opportunity cost, and determined the cost to add/maintain new servers would not bring in enough additional profit to justify them.

See also: Greed Apathy

It should bring them more, should it not? It means more customers, and less people quitting.

DerpstaticNov 3, 20142 votes

Riot...At least let us know why?

They have looked at the opportunity cost, and determined the cost to add/maintain new servers would not bring in enough additional profit to justify them.

See also: Greed Apathy

It should bring them more, should it not? It means more customers, and less people quitting.

One would think, but probably not. They are the only ones with the actual numbers, and I bet they aren't losing too many people to not having an east coast server.

we stay highNov 3, 20146 votes

Riot...At least let us know why?

They have looked at the opportunity cost, and determined the cost to add/maintain new servers would not bring in enough additional profit to justify them.

See also: Greed Apathy

It should bring them more, should it not? It means more customers, and less people quitting.

One would think, but probably not. They are the only ones with the actual numbers, and I bet they aren't losing too many people to not having an east coast server.

The link I provided earlier in conjunction to the thread with over 1000 comment pages and some 660,000 views says otherwise.

Romans VI XXIIINov 4, 20141 votes

Its called a company IDIOT. A business can not invest in some thing they KNOW will not bring them any money. League of Legends is not a charity, they have to make money OR there will be no league of legends for YOU CRY BABIES to play.

and to the OP, OMFG you can play at a constant 140 ping. THAT IS VERY PLAYABLE, VERY VERY VERY. I have played COMPETITIVELY with over 400 ping and done VERY WELL. Stop your crying. be grateful that you have 140 instead of 150. That's what wrong with this generation, if its not how they want it they cry and complain about it instead of being grateful that LEAGUE OF LEGENDS IS FREE TO PLAY. Sure lets put a new server on the east coast, but at the cost of PAY TO PLAY LEAGUE OF LEGENDS. how does that sound? Yea stop your bitching people.

we stay highNov 4, 20146 votes

Its called a company IDIOT. A business can not invest in some thing they KNOW will not bring them any money. League of Legends is not a charity, they have to make money OR there will be no league of legends for YOU CRY BABIES to play.

and to the OP, OMFG you can play at a constant 140 ping. THAT IS VERY PLAYABLE, VERY VERY VERY. I have played COMPETITIVELY with over 400 ping and done VERY WELL. Stop your crying. be grateful that you have 140 instead of 150. That's what wrong with this generation, if its not how they want it they cry and complain about it instead of being grateful that LEAGUE OF LEGENDS IS FREE TO PLAY. Sure lets put a new server on the east coast, but at the cost of PAY TO PLAY LEAGUE OF LEGENDS. how does that sound? Yea stop your bitching people.

LMFAO I stopped reading when you said you played with 400 ping competitively. You are either trolling or just riding Riots dick.Gtfo of here you know absolutely nothing.

Romans VI XXIIINov 4, 20141 votes

I know that you are a spoiled little brat that is crying over a free game that is not doing exactly what you want them to do. Thats all your post is, you bitching about how a FREE GAME is not GOOD ENOUGH. Its so sad.

60254696_DELNov 4, 20146 votes

I know that you are a spoiled little brat that is crying over a free game that is not doing exactly what you want them to do. Thats all your post is, you bitching about how a FREE GAME is not GOOD ENOUGH. Its so sad.

Lol another western fanboy, I bet you wouldve quit this game if youre here judging by this post

KachompNov 3, 201419 votes

See how the the red on the east is in a triangle? Well for people connected in the midwest , LAN servers are just as far away as NA, so why would I want to play on lan? Also for everyone on the northern east coast (massive population) LAN server Isn't that close either.

So stop telling people to move to LAN servers and be happy when for many its just as laggy and the fact that your playing on a LATIN AMERICAN SERVER. I don't want to see huehuehue jajaja every game, and we shouldn't have to.

If they can make a server for turkey, and have about 30 servers in china, there's absolutely no reason they cant make an east coast server. And yes you can sync them so no matter if your playing on east or west coast server, you will all still be playing together.

There's absolutely NO reason that they shouldn't build an east coast/midwest server. /end rant

DremiistNov 3, 201418 votes

80% on the east 20% on the west

meanwhile no east coast server...

SolumindraNov 3, 201410 votes

If we all just moved to LAN it could be East Coast NA, kappa.

ZeurthNov 3, 201412 votes

Remove LAN make it for east coast players and make a server down there. problem solved.

Sailor MintNov 3, 20148 votes

Chicago is the only option.

Still getting 70 ping on LAN.

OnegarionNov 3, 20145 votes

Chicago is the best option when you consider that NA includes Canada as well. It gives everyone an optimal connection since Miami is only viable for about Half of the actual east coast of NA.

Personally I get around 40 Ping on LAN, but I'm not really going to transfer down or start over from nothing for it.

KachompNov 3, 20144 votes

Yes it would be the ideal central location for all NA. Plus I live in the midwest :P

XonraNov 4, 20147 votes

If we all just moved to LAN it could be East Coast NA, kappa.

I'm sure more people would if it didn't cost like 20 dollars to transfer since it isn't free. That and riot has stated a few times they really don't want NA players on LAN yet they refuse to actually do anything at all about ping.

Riot has long since proved with their actions (and lack of words) that unless you live in California or you are a pro player they could care less about you as a customer/player. It is a sad fact.

CerbearusNov 3, 201410 votes

Good news! Riot is moving their servers!

Bad news! They are moving them down the street and have said it will in no way help east coast ping issues!

FyreNinjaNov 3, 20149 votes

I wish that they would care..... It makes me sad item 3070 Amumu

WankerooNov 3, 20149 votes

110 ping is a joke. Even across the continent/coast to coast it should be better. I have played on Cali servers from Montreal with less than 90 ping many times. In fact I used to have 70 - 80ping to Riot's server. Now 110... S A D

If an opponent has 40ping and you have 110ping - they have a large advantage. I know this. It is fact. Don't even try to dispute it.

SolidPoohNov 5, 20143 votes

At the start of this year I was racking in 90 ping on the northern east coast.

I avg now at 121-136

It's a wee bit tough but I wouldnt miss it if I could at least be 90 again

DroogzyNov 4, 20149 votes

As someone who has had the luxury to play on both sides of the American coast, I can definitely say there is a massive difference between playing on the East Coast and West Coast. East Coast is at such a disadvantage it's not even funny.

For those that claim that it makes no difference, please shut up, this is coming from someone who's residence resides in the West Coast AND has experience on both sides of the coast.

CriomhthannNov 4, 20147 votes

Riot isn't ignoring this. They have already stated what's what.

They have outright stated that they have no desire or plans to make an NA East Server.
(AFAIK) Moving the servers to a more central location has not been expounded upon, nor plans released since the notion was made.
Riot desires to "address" NA East ping without doing anything to their servers.

In essence, Riot has no intention and no plans to do anything of substance about the issue of NA East Cost ping.

EndtroducingNov 3, 20146 votes

As a LoL player from Florida I logged in just to upvote this post. I understand economics but with the revenue generated from this game maintaining a second server should fix more headaches than it should cause. But its all about that bottom line so we'll see if they decide to do anything.

Kat HeadNov 4, 20146 votes

#FairPlayingField

2pudge1cupNov 3, 20145 votes

I wish I could upvote this more. This reddit style forum seems to bury any criticism quickly.

I came back recently after a long hiatus and I don't remember it was this bad before. It isn't just the constant 110 ping, but I'll get spikes in fights sometimes which would be unplayable. I'll probably go on another long hiatus because it seems as though riot just wants to sweep this under the rug.

Drunk RummateNov 3, 20145 votes

If we're lucky they'll be finished by the year 2114. Preferably before all human life has ceased to exist from some crazy nuclear war.

test accountNov 4, 20143 votes

Implying the game will last this long with service like we're getting

A Corny NameNov 3, 20145 votes

Thank you so much for bringing attention to this finally :3 now all my rants about it for the past few months on the support board seem a little less bitter and a little more true. Riot please give East coast servers or we'll rito. wait what

A Corny NameNov 3, 20144 votes

Here's another post about this from a month ago. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD/ZllogYWr-na-east-coast-server

we stay highNov 3, 20145 votes

Here's another post about this from a month ago. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/GD/ZllogYWr-na-east-coast-server

Did you know that this is based off of a thread that started in 2012 before the new GD?The old one gained over 1000 PAGES of comments.heres the link

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2277789&page=1075

Gear KittyNov 3, 20144 votes

.#FairPlayingField

RhytoNov 4, 20144 votes

I live in New York and I work with a 90 Ping via Wired Connection. While I agree that having only 1 Server is....disappointing That's all the advice I can give at this time. It also makes sense as to why when the Server Crashes there isn't any backup. How much is it for a new Server? Can we fund it? Fundraiser? Just so that Rito won't have to deal with this issue with the players?

A Corny NameNov 4, 20143 votes

There was a petition that got 10000 signatures that was completely ignored

AerothalNov 4, 20144 votes

♫♪ If you think you'll get an answer clap your hands... ♪♪♫

ADC BardNov 3, 20143 votes

there's already an east coast server

it's called LAN

DregenNov 3, 20144 votes

there's already an east coast server

it's called LAN

Took me awhile to realize everyone was talking about Latin America North and not local area network :/

Nucleophilic atkNov 3, 20144 votes

HAHAH! You have no idea how long I thought that. I was like wtf is everyone saying, I get the same ping whether I am on WiFi or plugged in lol.

we stay highNov 3, 20149 votes

there's already an east coast server

it's called LAN

Yeah,where the population is 99% Spanish speakers and whoever speaks English is an "estúpido gringo" who gets instantly harassed and reported.

GiGGaBroNov 6, 20143 votes

I agree. NA customers deserve some reassurance that this is being acknowledged and hopefully have plans to address it.

RrettNov 3, 20142 votes

GUys this isn't caused by riots server positions, or anything geological.

From west to east coast you can get 30-50 ms. The reason you don't is because American ISP's 'throttle' the fuck out of packets. They just don't bother to upgrade their infastructure.

This is whats causing your ping issues. Stop blaming riot. This issue wouldn't be happening if ISP's weren't such monopolistic cunts as they are.

Sorry to say but you're barking at the wrong tree. Try using a VPN. That will probably short fix your problem and get you under 100ms ping.

Good VPN's I've found are GoTrusted and WTFast. You'll have to contact support for specific IP's though for proper connect when using Go Trusted, but it works.

we stay highNov 3, 20145 votes

GUys this isn't caused by riots server positions, or anything geological.

From west to east coast you can get 30-50 ms. The reason you don't is because American ISP's 'throttle' the fuck out of packets. They just don't bother to upgrade their infastructure.

This is whats causing your ping issues. Stop blaming riot. This issue wouldn't be happening if ISP's weren't such monopolistic cunts as they are.

Sorry to say but you're barking at the wrong tree. Try using a VPN. That will probably short fix your problem and get you under 100ms ping.

Good VPN's I've found are GoTrusted and WTFast. You'll have to contact support for specific IP's though for proper connect when using Go Trusted, but it works.

Riot themselves have acknowledged that it is the sheer distance that is effecting ping for the most part.To say it is "American" ISPs throttling packets is just plain wrong.First of all NA does not equal "America".Second of all any other online multiplayer game I have ever played,notably WoW,has always offered a ping of 20-30 tops. I have tried all the free VPN's and even after using an IP address based in California my ping dropped from 140 to 130..not worth the hassle.

Riot is the direct culprit and to say otherwise is pure ignorance.