I miss old Graves

Time Wizuhd·Jun 6, 2017·5 votes·1,197 views

Pre-rework Graves was the most fun champion in the game to me. I got mastery level 5 on him almost immediately, and now that he's a completely different champ I just dont enjoy him anymore. I'm sure a lot of people feel this way about their old mains. I don't think it would be fair to revert him, that's not what I'm asking. I just wish there was another marksman that made me enjoy the role as much as Graves did. (i play Lucian and I know they played similarly, but it's not the same for me.) So i wouldn't be upset if there was a new marksman added to the roster with Buckshot and Quickdraw :)

7 Comments

HelaJun 6, 20171 votes

I agree, I miss his old play style and his old q, I hate how he cant shoot through minions or terrain now...

Chembaron YamadaJun 6, 20171 votes

He can shoot through terrain, just minions, champions and structures are blocking his AA.

HelaJun 6, 20171 votes

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He can shoot through terrain, just minions, champions and structures are blocking his AA.

No he cant, try shooting a champ behind the turret- it blocks it. walls block too, you cant auto someone through the wall even if you have vision. his q is annoying too, while it procs faster if u shoot a wall its still annoying not being able to shoot someone on other side of wall. And your post is contradicting, those that are blocking his AA means he cant shoot through it lol

Chembaron YamadaJun 6, 20171 votes

Turrets are not terrain and I mentioned that you can't shoot through structures (which turrets are).
Pretty sure I already shot enemies through walls. Just today I was playing against a Taliyah and was shooting her through her own created wall. But of course there are exceptions, for example Yoricks W, but that is because it is coded like a minion.
Kinda agree that it is annoying that you can't Q someone on the other side of a wall, you have to use your R for that. But the faster procc is not that bad, it helps bursting enemies in the jungle or while flanking.

HelaJun 6, 20171 votes

Graves auto is considered more of a projectile more than a AA. With that said you can dodge his aa if you had a dodge or flash it wont follow you like a normal AA from another Adc. That is why his auto does more dmg the closer you are because you are landing more of your burst auto atk, and that is also why crits make his auto shoot more bullets at once. try it out.

Chembaron YamadaJun 6, 20171 votes

When I started this game, Graves was my first "main". But I have to say, I am pretty satisfied with his rework.

I still enjoy playing him bot lane (yes, I know, people play him jungle now, but I like it so let me). And I am a man who really wants champions to fulfill their fantasy in gameplay....

I didn't notice back then, but that Graves was AAing like every other ADC in the game was actually weird. He uses a shotgun and it should feel like a shotgun. In my opinion, they succeeded to deliver that feeling.