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Some clarity for Swain (suggestion)

KronosCifer··11 votes·1,164 views

Upon playing Swain, realizing the importance of mana-management is one of the first painful lessons everyone has to learn. Mostly by keeping up your ultimate while in a teamfight, trying your best to zone while going directly for those tasty chickens squishies, only to realize that you('re) screwed up when your mana-bar is suddenly gone and you're helpless. The more games you play, it becomes steadily easier to estimate the time you can keep your extremely badass raven-form up, while still being able to cast your black magix. While I love this playstyle, having to manage your resources in combat that is, it can be pretty annoying when constantly having to look at your mana bar and at how much it is declining, so you know when it would be the best time to turn it off and potentially disengage, maybe even indicating your team to do so as well. "Strategic Withdrawal!" Of course the passive helps to keep up your ultimate, but it cannot always be relied on.

A great way to help Swain-veterans and -beginners alike would be an icon that indicates the amount of mana it consumes with every second, much like Kassadin, right at your buff-bar or R-icon. With this, mana-management during teamfights and skirmishes would be "simplified" in a good way. It wouldn't take away Swain's weakness, but it would make it better to deal with, especially when everyone around you is going nuts and you have to keep track of everything at once.

All hail our glorious leader Swain! For the age of world-domination (and dragons, Riot pls) may come!!!

10 Comments

KING OF MASKS5 votes

Once you've played Swain enough you develop a sort of sixth sense with regard to the mana management of your ult, to the point that glancing at your mana is almost unnecessary. That said an indicator certainly wouldn't be an unwelcome addition; kind of weird that they haven't already added something like that.

Earthlord Jazz1 votes

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Once you've played Swain enough you develop a sort of sixth sense with regard to the mana management of your ult, to the point that glancing at your mana is almost unnecessary. That said an indicator certainly wouldn't be an unwelcome addition; kind of weird that they haven't already added something like that.

^^^^^^^^^^^ So much this. I personally feel like I wouldn't use the indicator, but I'm sure it would be useful for others. It would not hurt in the least to have it

Silents4292 votes

As someone who unleashes the Swain Train often the only thing I want is easier ways to CS with my auto attack. Whether it be improving the animation or giving him a little more ad.

Zair Umbras2 votes

His R racks up costs every second, so having an indicator could potentially cause performance issues. Unlike Kassadin's R, his R gets new numbers every single second. While many players, like myself, won't notice anything, it can become a bit too harsh on others when it's not necessary to do such. We all know when to stop using his ult. Your mana bar is very visible, even when you play with your stuff scaled incredibly down since your healthbar and mana bar are RIGHT there. His ult ticks down. When you see your mana beginning to go a bit too quick, you stop. When you're not around enemy champs, you stop it. When you're not taking damage, you can turn it off.

Swain is about micromanagement, which fits his thematic since he's a 'Master Tactician'.

Awoof1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Zair Umbras,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QrvZOgRI,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-04-21T02:40:15.109+0000)

His R racks up costs every second, so having an indicator could potentially cause performance issues.

Yeah... I highly doubt that. I mean what you said is right, but it's hard for me to imagine that a changing number on your R icon would be... I don't know, too much to handle for someone.

Zair Umbras1 votes

Others have mentioned it to be a stacking thing so others can see it for... 'counterplay'. As if it's hard to look at Swain and see the mana bar nearly gone.

DomainSpecific1 votes

I agree, provided it can also be seen by the enemies. That way, they can also have an idea of how long Swain can keep up on his bird form.

Saint Archer1 votes

just build 6 seraphs embraces and you won't have to worry about it

The Trent1 votes

Im just saying but no swains I have ever played against have ran out of mana unless it was early game. Like really early game. He gets mana back from ulting a minion wave and if you try to punish him for it he will just root you then combo so he out trades u while gaining mana. Good thing they're not thinking about nerfing morelos any time soon to make sure that Swain doesn't need any changes. Oh wait.

junglerboy161 votes

I posted this exact idea about 3 months ago, and it got a lot of upvotes, but Riot still never addressed it. Take my upvote in the hopes that maybe this thread will get the idea out.

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