Is Matchmaking System broken?

General Dots··6 votes·2,521 views

Hello, I'm a EUNE Diamond 4 Jungle/Top main. Occasionally, when I decide to test new builds or hone my skills with certain champions, I play normals. The problem is, as title suggests, Matchmaking System. Examples:

  1. http://i.imgur.com/GGiRUBm.png Clearly, we lost. (me - fiora 4/9/1)

  2. http://i.imgur.com/UejhamN.png Obvious loss. (me - renekton 1/8/1)

  3. http://i.imgur.com/6vYO0qm.png Here however, despite the odds, we won. (me - udyr 16/2/4)

In 1st game, there was undoubtedly some issue for matchmaking to screw up this much. It was completely normal blind pick game. In 2nd game, we were all premade, which might have caused such match. This one was normal but draft pick game. In 3rd game, I got sated at 14:39 and we had certain victory at hand. Just like 1st game, normal blind pick game.

Very few examples but problem has been around for quite a while, at least for me. I am unsure about hows it going at lower divisions. Premade teams might be causing issues that are like 2nd game and because of this, there might be trouble when new ranked solo queue ranked premade system update is launched. Normal game queues last a while on EUNE, especially when you are in higher divisions, which might also be the cause of problem.

If this issue has already been addressed, then my apologies.

Chose that certain 3rd game cos I wanted to brag about it(was afk first few min) [slayer-jinx-wink]

UPDATE It seems same problem affects lower divisions too.

8 Comments

Changsty2 votes

You pretty much nail it in your second sentence. If you're trying out a new build on a new champion, chances are you're nowhere near your ranked skill level. If you're practicing champs on your main role, then you're going to play a lot better. It's going to be impossible for the system to preemptively predict the skill level of all 10 players

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Normal matchmaking does not use Ranked MMR; they are completely separate. Otherwise you'd just be playing Ranked either way.

Seeing as how you are getting some very high elo Ranked players in your matches, that probably means your Normal MMR is really high though, as is theirs. But that also means that Silver has a really high MMR also in Normals; you can't just look at their border and determine their skill. If they have the same high Normal MMR that you do, they are probably much more skilled than Silver in Ranked (and they probably don't realize it).

1 800 MID LANE1 votes

I want to go against a couple challenger players just to know what it feels like to get shit-stomped by challenger players.

General Dots1 votes

Trust me, when you get at least 1 kill, it feels like: "Yeah... YEAH! I CAN BE CHALLENGER TOO" When you die deep down you know it is k, cos hey, that guy is challenger.

1 800 MID LANE1 votes

I take that back. I did go against Annie Bot once. I didn't even know who he was. I was laughing at his name. BM'ing him in /all.

Then he got to lane and bent me over at level 3.

I Hate Katarina1 votes

I'm gold and recently got matched with (SILVER AND BRONZES) in normals against a full team of diamonds and plats.... When I go on to another account where I didn't lose as badly on here, my normal MMR matches me with team of diamonds.

Gold 4 on both... I just find it that when I'm on here it's harder to win because the lower elos are generally more harder to carry (they feed alot) Compared to the diamond ones people don't feed "on purpose" or over some stupid mistake, we generally play better as a team.

RIOT PLEASE FIX YOUR MATCHMAKING WHY AM I GETTIGN BRONZES AGAISNT PLATS/Ds?

Slapstick161 votes

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I'm gold and recently got matched with (SILVER AND BRONZES) in normals against a full team of diamonds and plats.... When I go on to another account where I didn't lose as badly on here, my normal MMR matches me with team of diamonds.

Gold 4 on both... I just find it that when I'm on here it's harder to win because the lower elos are generally more harder to carry (they feed alot) Compared to the diamond ones people don't feed "on purpose" or over some stupid mistake, we generally play better as a team.

RIOT PLEASE FIX YOUR MATCHMAKING WHY AM I GETTIGN BRONZES AGAISNT PLATS/Ds?

It's almost as though they are separate MMR as an example my ranked account is Bronze... However during games I typically get placed against silver and gold. That's because I play more draft/blind/team builder so my Normal game MMR rises while my ranked games stay pretty much the same I just don't play ranked as much specifically for this reason. The mindset of Bronze players is just too frustrating. It does need to be fixed to an extent.. As an example my ranked placement I went 7-3 my friend went 1-8 I got b 5 and he got silver 4.... only because he got boosted by playing with higher levels and he was carried to a higher win rate. his placements put him against Gold/silver then silver/ silver until finally he's placed low silver. whereas I get placed vs bronze vs bronze ect. I've also played the same account for 4 years learned on this account now a noob account I have places silver every year and that's just to prove that if you play bots to 30 then play 20 games win 75% you'll place silver and just need to level to gold. your win rate in placements will determine how high or low in silver you place. I can show you at least 20 examples of these types of people on my friends list because I have recruited most of them and helped them learn the game. I doubt the grasshopper has surpassed the master. I would also Like to add that if you look at the new changes to the placement that should help with at least ranked queues getting through if that's frustrating. I myself did promos for Bronze 3 at least 6 times back and forth where wit h the new changes I'm sure I would have gotten through much more easily because you don't get an afk every game :D.

ShatteredSkys1 votes

Yeah I have the same issue. Gold 2 but Im being match versus bronze and silvers. I understand ranked and norms have different MMRs but I've played like 12 games in norms almost all stomps yet Im still being matched with lower Elo players:/

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