Surrender Voting

King Kakazooie··176 votes·3,967 views

As a seasoned player in the Pits of Hell (Also known as Bronze), I'd like to pitch a suggestion. If two players have already voted no in a surrender vote, and it is therefore impossible for the surrender vote to go through, then get that ugly thing off my screen! It blocks my field of view for no reason!

46 Comments

A Vel Koz Main7 votes

I'd more concerned how 3Y/1N/0 is not a majority vote to surrender.

ahferroin71 votes

They only count yes votes, abstaining counts as a no.

Which is stupid TBH, but it's what's there.

Rise Spartan6 votes

I can not stand defeat by surrender. Honor your enemies victory with a fight to the end.

Sihari5 votes

Nah, if all members of a team are tilted, you shouldnt make their pain last even longer. Just make it quick and surrender! The enemy will be happy anyway...

420 grams3 votes

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I can not stand defeat by surrender. Honor your enemies victory with a fight to the end.

Then vote no. No need to obstain!

Danjeng1 votes

For me, I only vote no if one other person votes no. I don't want to make my team suffer, but if someone (like you) still has some hope, I don't to squash it out.

Lellistair1 votes

You are what is wrong with the game

Aeszarck1 votes

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You are what is wrong with the game

That's a terrible attitude. You can't say that one player is responsible for everything wrong in the game, because that's just mean and untrue. I could say that players with attitudes like the one you just demonstrated are part of the issues in League of Legends, but I could not say that you are the one problem.

ItsOrval1 votes

If your jungler is 2/7, mid laner is 0/7, youre 1/4, adc is 0/2, support is 0/5 then surrender that shit

Mystic Shovel5 votes

I hate surrendering, get rid of it.

58697132DEL14 votes

Yeah its bad enough 95% of LoL players think every norms is LCS and doesnt recognize when to actually surrender, but now that box is just there like an annoying reminder of their stupidity AND blocks my view. If 2 people say no just immediately stop the vote cause it literally doesn't matter what the others say anyways.

NGNL Asian1 votes

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Yeah its bad enough 95% of LoL players think every norms is LCS and doesnt recognize when to actually surrender, but now that box is just there like an annoying reminder of their stupidity AND blocks my view. If 2 people say no just immediately stop the vote cause it literally doesn't matter what the others say anyways.

People ff in competitive play too

Cavemantero1 votes

[{quoted}](name=NGNL Asian,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QZme0EEq,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2017-01-25T03:53:40.990+0000)

People ff in competitive play too

And they probably have atrocious win rates.

58697132DEL11 votes

Yeah but i'd say oh idk if im picking an number, 95% of people in comp play dont FF because as competitive implies, they'd rather lose trying to win than FF Norms is not competitve. It's not even ranked. There's no reason 2 people should be saying no if a game is objectively lost. Not saying EVERY game doesnt have comeback potential, but its way less likely in Solo norms exp.

I digress, remove the box after 2 No's. There is no reason not too.

NGNL Asian1 votes

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Yeah but i'd say oh idk if im picking an number, 95% of people in comp play dont FF because as competitive implies, they'd rather lose trying to win than FF Norms is not competitve. It's not even ranked. There's no reason 2 people should be saying no if a game is objectively lost. Not saying EVERY game doesnt have comeback potential, but its way less likely in Solo norms exp.

I digress, remove the box after 2 No's. There is no reason not too.

Every game I have in ranked, everyone ints if you dont ff. lIterally 80% of the population of low elo

rtbf761092714 votes

You can drag the window so far to the side that you can't really see it anymore. Just the edge. I also find it very annoying

Kaioko3 votes

Except then if these players actually want to surrender you no longer have that option.

ph1234k42 votes

I don't think he is talking about future votes, just to immediately remove the current failed vote instead of waiting for every person to vote even though the outcome is known.

xelaker15 votes

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Except then if these players actually want to surrender you no longer have that option.

people like you are the ones who don't vote and let it count down aren't ya?

DragonManSquid12 votes

That's the worst.

Phyuq Yiu14 votes

I hate those guys

NewGuy1018 votes

I read this in Ezreal 's voice

Fondling Gems1 votes

Hey I only do that if someone else isn't voting because I always vote last. Mostly because I actually vote based off other votes not my personal preference, I just vote yes/no based on what makes a pretty pattern because I don't want to fall into the habit of seeing surrender as a way out and on to the next game because I know people who just stop climbing because they play that way.

It does mean I can't vote if all 4 other players don't though.

Kaioko1 votes

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people like you are the ones who don't vote and let it count down aren't ya?

Hardly I'm just stating what the actual issue would be if you removed that functionality. You're going in with the assumption that every team you play with is toxic and is using the surrender option as a means of trolling. I'm going into it with the thought process that it can actually be used correctly.

Bronze and Silver ELOs typically do have quite a few more trolls that use the surrender option as a means of annoying their team, but that doesn't mean all other players should be punished because of them.

Finally as a last note - you can actually drag the surrender box to places on your screen where it doesn't block your vision.

58697132DEL14 votes

No one is saying get rid of FFs are you thinking that? Firstly If its ON the screen its blocking SOME vision thats a fact no matter what. Left right top bottom doesnt matter, its blocking something. Thats besides the point tho which you totally missed I guess? If i go /ff and the box comes up, (me voting yes and 4 blanks) and 2 people click no (Now its 1 yes/2 no/2 blanks), then the other 2 votes mean nothing. They are useless and wasted because the vote already failed. If both of them hit yes it doesnt change the outcome and most obviously a no vote wont either.

Therefore if 2 people hit no, just get rid of the box. I have no clue why you are so insistent that a box telling you information you already know needs to stay on screen for 60 seconds? Legit confused at the logic there so I can only assume you misunderstood the premise.

doiminat0r36002 votes

You can move it though.... To where most of it is off the screen

Iridya2 votes

or better . when 2 of the team are voting no , no one except them can /FF again :) so when the FF vote appears it will be a guaranteed surrender :)))))

LA Losty3 votes

No those 2 players should not be able to decide if the whole team should surrender.

Iridya1 votes

you didn't get it, no one can start the vote...ofc everyone has the chance to press "yes" or "no" when the vote has started

LA Losty1 votes

No one can start the vote? If thats the case then it would be pointless. Perhabs you meant that only they could start the vote? Its the way you are wording your comments that makes it difficult to understand. Also on your first comment you said it would be a guaranteed surrender when the 2 people want to ff, thus i assumed that they were the only ones who were able to vote, otherwise that statement makes no sense as players can change their mind during a game.

Iridya1 votes

Ok i 'll make it clearer^^

If a player starts the vote and 2 guys are voting NO , than the next vote can be started ONLY by the two guys that voted "no". Of course, on the new vote, everyone will be free to vote again....and so on...

Basically in this way only the players that refused to surrender can start the vote again. There is no need that a player that voted yes wanna surrender again, it's obvious that he wants :)

LA Losty1 votes

Well people can change their mind, so while it is indeed annoying to see those surrender votes pop up i doubt it will make much of a difference, but maybe a little. :)

Iridya1 votes

If he changes his mind, when a new vote is started he'll vote no :) and the next vote can be started by him and the other player that voted no :P

Got the trick?

It's a perfect system :) You will have wayyyyyyy less surrender votes during a game and everyone can anyway express his will without any limitation :))

Kudrov2 votes

peoples who vote NO but its clearly a lost ... get of my ranks you blocking my field of time to rank up for no reason thanks.

WAP Jookay3 votes

Define "clearly lost".

Last time I lost a ranked game by a 4/1 surrender vote, our team was in 12/15 and the enemy team had taken 1 tower.

I don't think I won EVERY game where our team was 15/12, with 1 enemy tower down.

drakuIa4211 votes

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Define "clearly lost".

when im autofilled

hehe xd

Trias0002 votes

Better, it should disappear once you've already voted.

And let it remember the position of the pop-up between games. I always have to move it to bottom left corner of my screen.

ahferroin71 votes

At least SMITE has the first suggestion, and I think DotA2 and HotS do too, so I we can count on it being implemented 2 years from now.

As far as the second, I don't move it myself, but the fact that it doesn't remember that is just stupid.

Sukishoo1 votes

I'd rather them just make it Majority voting as a 2N v 3Y has never been fair.

Kinndread1 votes

You can move it off the screen.. and it's tiny

ThatHaleState1 votes

You know you can just drag it all the way off the screen right? Just grab it by a corner and throw that bitch off into a corner to never be seen again

WhaiiSoSerious1 votes

Just slide it to the bottom.

Danjeng1 votes

Tip: You can drag the surrender panel off the screen. Just put your cursor on the left edge of the surrender popup, and drag it to the right edge of your display!

The Pirate Flag1 votes

this would be a nice idea

Cavemantero1 votes

Surrender vote is for people who don't know how to play late game unless they are winning. Thanks Rito for now making late game practically useless.

sobi9991 votes

Just today i had a game where the enemy broke 2 inhibitors and took down nexus to 30% health. We didn't even take a single tower or maybe 1 at most. We won at the end because 2 players refused to surrender. I hate keep having to see that thing on my screen when i don't want to surrender.

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