Lets talk "mid" brand

Grimshinde··4 votes·2,626 views

So during some recent patches riot has tried to make Brand a more viable mid laner which i personally dont mind at all considering too many mids are almost better as support atm which can hurt the support/bot lane meta.

The intentions has been good problem is that brand is still mostly picked support for many reasons. Riot buffing his passive and such isnt something that will help him go mid more since i dont feel that mana problem was the reason brand was such a viable support and less mid laner or his passive not being as strong. Buffing his passive made him even more attractive to be put in support due to how much you can deal to enemy adc and support while he still has matchups mids there doing the same would be alot harder . Personally i think his kit is almost more designed recently as something of a good nuke to have bot supporting due to the ultimate works magic when hitting double champs.

The changes riot is going to make probably to target spells might lift him to mid and make him more viable or it will perma him as a support. Reason i say this is that i dont know in what way this will affect his stun comboes specially the EQ

Well lets say that wont make it better for him in anyway not support but def not mid there there risk is that minions will block your attempts on every turn in both support and mid. Reason why supports might not be as effected is that Brand wont be focusing on playing around minions as you might do when playing midlane there you aggroing the minions without the adc to take the aggro back might make your hp fall low fast and might not make the trade as good as it could or as said earlier a minion blocks it and you just put yourself in harms way. In support this wont be a problem as much due to the adc taking the aggro or killing the minions for you in a way and you wont be as afraid of aggroing minions i would think.

Brand as his kit stands will always be a poor mids support meaning mid player who needs a support to fit their playstyle and unless you love the champ its chances are low of going more mid than support.

Role Popularity WinRate Support 62.2% 51.7% Mid 34.6% 52.7 got this from league of graphs.

This is just a general thought i have had while thinking about the champ as is.

9 Comments

Extyrna1 votes

Tried a game with him in Mid after his patch. Great Single Target Carry Destroyer. Still terrible immobile one-shot, one-trick in the bag Mage.

Mid Lane main with a large Champ pool, Brand still not being added to it.

Grimshinde1 votes

Yeah thats my point its brands kit thats making him as is so if riot buffs him he will just be greater support nothing more

DayNite1 votes

Brand is gay. That's all.

TheProfezzor1 votes

I main brand supp and did fine pre buff. Not exactly sure what he is missing to make him viable mid as I don’t mid but his damage is insane bot assuming you land combo. If you miss combo you are sol with no disengage or cc.

PhearBunny1 votes

Mid has become highly mobile. As a result Brands strengths are much harder to play on, and his weaknesses are easier to take advantage of. Hes still a really solid champ, but hypermobility pushed him out of mid.

Jmman1 votes

This is correct.

You have to be able to roam and gank now at mid. Mage are weaker and don't have the mobility ( not Taliyah TwistedFate etc, or assassins that use ap, just spell casting ones.) By weaker they can't carry the game as much as certain tanks (while the other half is really bad), adc and certain brusiers/divers.

Therefore they can carry bot because adc and support don't have the MR or can afford to get it before its too late. They can also use their poke. (can't use is mid lane because of the item match up and zerg fest damage)

Mid now needs to be able to easy wave clear, then be able to gank or carry late game. A lot of AP users just don't fix that bill as well as AD / Assassins. Late game in solo que an extra dps magic type seem to be better than a non grouped with support. But it came make up for a bad ADC. this is total different than a group 5 team play. Where a team can carry instead of just you. This is also why certain champs are totally broken for solo que. Once they get a kill or two the "team" isn't a "team" just 5 solo running around.

Zane Zephyr1 votes

Brand isnt really played mid lane because he's short ranged, immobile, and his damage/cc is unreliable and if you miss your stun you literally have no way of defending yourself if someone goes in on you and if you're playing against an assassin you can forget about having a laning phase unless they let you hit a lot of your spells.

CrazyBigfoot281 votes

I personally enjoy playing brand mid and sometime carry games with him but he does have his issues mid including that your ult does not bounce unless their a few minions plus assasins such as Talon Zed destroys him

Done251 votes

They don't need to increase his base damages. This will only make bot lane Brand stronger. They need to give him better AP ratios so that gold has actual value for him.

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