Kindred

Indo85··5 votes·5,348 views

Kindred is a magnificent character, but it is difficult to play with him, because he can't hide despite the wolf being made of shadows and as he is a jungle champion he should be able to jump walls just by walking against them all the time if you want. This champion needs more love and affection and I'm sure you can give him what he needs please...

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iiGazeii5 votes

I think Kindred deserves a mini-VGU. Wolf is a very vocal particle effect, not one half of the whole. They don't capture the fantasy of the dual embodiment of death.

Their ult is also catastrophic to mess up. Most ults simply waste their value if you mess them up, but a mistimed Lamb's Respite means you end up saving and/or healing the enemy team. It's negative value.

boricCentaur12 votes

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I think Kindred deserves a mini-VGU. Wolf is a very vocal particle effect, not one half of the whole. They don't capture the fantasy of the dual embodiment of death.

Their ult is also catastrophic to mess up. Most ults simply waste their value if you mess them up, but a mistimed Lamb's Respite means you end up saving and/or healing the enemy team. It's negative value.

No. People like you really really need to stop. Like kindred is a marksman meaning lamb will ALWAYS be the one in control.

Like stop trying to make the champion something else.

Also the ult is fine and if you played the champion you would know that. It's a great ult it's fun, it takes skill, it can completely change a fight if used right.

Kindred is a marksman deal with it.

iiGazeii2 votes

Why do you think I want Kindred to stop being a marksman? I never said that. I said that I want Wolf to have a more active and tangible presence.

BlackEtherian1 votes

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I think Kindred deserves a mini-VGU. Wolf is a very vocal particle effect, not one half of the whole. They don't capture the fantasy of the dual embodiment of death.

Their ult is also catastrophic to mess up. Most ults simply waste their value if you mess them up, but a mistimed Lamb's Respite means you end up saving and/or healing the enemy team. It's negative value.

It's okay for a champion to be difficult to learn (eg Kindreds R "Lambs Respite") that's the problem with Riot's new champions at the present moment: When you make a mistake it doesn't matter because of how easy the champion is, but when you make a positive play the rewards are abundant.

iiGazeii3 votes

I'm pretty sure Kindred's ult is the only ability in the game that can heal your enemies and keep them from dying. There's not only the potential to waste it, but to actually help the enemy team.

Even with the oldest champs, messing up your ult whiffs it at worst, MAYBE getting you killed due to the channel time or whatever. Kindred's ult can do much worse than that. It's not that it takes more skill, it's that it's wildly less forgiving than virtually any other ability in the game, old champion or otherwise.

BlackEtherian1 votes

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I'm pretty sure Kindred's ult is the only ability in the game that can heal your enemies and keep them from dying. There's not only the potential to waste it, but to actually help the enemy team.

Even with the oldest champs, messing up your ult whiffs it at worst, MAYBE getting you killed due to the channel time or whatever. Kindred's ult can do much worse than that. It's not that it takes more skill, it's that it's wildly less forgiving than virtually any other ability in the game, old champion or otherwise.

I'd like to preface that you can help the enemy team by whiffing abilities on any champion: Missing your ult on Cass is a huge benefit to the enemy team because it is now on cd, Morde ulting a 17/2 Vayne and dying is beneficial because he is dead and his ult is down. It may be the only ability that can heal the enemy, but it isn't the only ability that is THAT unforgiving. Taliyah wall can prompt the death of entire teams, dragons, or barons if positioned incorrectly, and might I add it's extremely easy to position incorrectly, Tahm Kench can literally eat his team members which can have devastating effects if executed poorly, and Kalista can drag her support away from the fight at an inopportune time which could result in a loss of the entire fight, Bard is quite literally a free teamwide hourglass every 80 seconds (I think you can see how that may take a twisted turn), so yeah Kindreds ult may be the only ult in the game with the ability to heal the enemy team, but there are other ults that have just as catastrophic of a consequence for failing to execute them correctly.

Hi im 124 votes

as he is a jungle champion he should be able to jump walls just by walking against them all the time if you want

and this post gets upvoted lmao

Sylaelque2 votes

Wolf and Lamb should be more interactive with each other because Wolf is almost non-exist and it doesn't feels like playing 2 characters just a game turns around Lamb. Ok, Kindred is very good in pro scene with currently design but unfortunately it doesn't reflect their true lore.

Wordson1x1 votes

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Wolf and Lamb should be more interactive with each other because Wolf is almost non-exist and it doesn't feels like playing 2 characters just a game turns around Lamb. Ok, Kindred is very good in pro scene with currently design but unfortunately it doesn't reflect their true lore.

"Good in pro scene" I don't even know when Kindred was picked in pro play last time lol.

Jaspers1 votes

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Sorry, I'll leave.

azzy butt1 votes

first off, kindred is two entities, but the main one is Lamb, who is a female. Second, Kindred does not really need any love. She does very well early game and scales pretty decently because of her marks.

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