Pyke is a stupid idea

THUNDERCOW3·8/10/2019, 3:39:04 PM·74 votes·17,496 views

https://imgur.com/QJCy2nC (sorry if image doesn't work, I've never posted here and don't know how images work) There should be no reason as to why I can go 15/0 and not have items for a solid 15 minutes in a game and still easily destroy everyone despite being 3 items down. This champion is nuts, especially in Aram considering damage doesn't affect me when I can just go out of vision and heal back to full (which is something you should not be able to do in aram). His ultimate base execute damage is stupidly high, hence why I can easily kill people without items, and just becomes even stupider with items in the fact that I run at them with W, auto, q, r, and the enemy just falls dead while I just profited 600 gold and given my teammate 300 gold as well.

Not to mention, his gold generation is stupid as well. It's not as apparent in Aram considering each kill is worth a lot less and most games there's not much gold difference between players, but in summoners rift he can easily get a gold advantage even if he's half the kills of their carry and without taking any farm. It's stupid how much gold he gets himself, and how much gold he can give allies despite taking all the kills. He doesn't just snowball stupidly himself, he snowballs his entire team, and they can be complete apes but he can still win because his entire team has much more items than the enemy.

Please. Nerf. Pyke Or better yet, rework him. Assassin support was a bad idea from the start.

50 Comments

Creamy Eevee8/10/2019, 4:54:24 PM28 votes

Riot loves their play makers, meanwhile us enchanters are kinds just rotting in jail for being healers/buffers

Daddy Ants8/10/2019, 6:07:51 PM14 votes

S U P P O R T

B T W

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Supports are meant to be champions who function on low income.

Saevum8/10/2019, 5:07:53 PM11 votes

Garen. with. conq.

nuff said.

BrightWîngs8/11/2019, 12:06:30 AM6 votes

Pyke mains: BuT mY uLT iS hARd tO LaNd

FSRER8/10/2019, 6:56:44 PM5 votes

Pyke should have never exsisted in the first place, having a assassin support was a interesting idea but this overtuned champion is nowhere close to what a healthy design should be. Back in the days, there used to be some very linear and unhealthy designs (writing this, old Fiora comes to mind) but in modern League someone would expect them to have learned what healthy design means but apparently, Pyke, Kaisa, Yuumi say otherwise. And we got into this unfixable mess, where even if these champions get nerfed into oblivion, their design will still be causing huge problems

Done258/10/2019, 4:40:45 PM4 votes

Instead of Black Cleaver you should go Lord Dom to get that tasty 100% armor penetration.

Teh Song8/10/2019, 5:52:25 PM3 votes

This being a moba, there are no inherently bad ideas. Whether Pyke himself is currently op or not, assassin-support is not a bad idea. Everything and anything can be made to work in a moba, balance being in the numbers.

Legsdaddy8/10/2019, 8:49:07 PM3 votes

The grey health thing is definitely something that should be nerfed on pyke. Tahm's grey health got nerfed last patch and immediately he lost his spot as a dominating top laner and went back to being a support only champ (yes there were other changes like his CC chain but I think E affected his top lane role the most.) It's pretty much impossible for most low mobility bruisers and tanks to do anything to pyke since he can just frick off and heal back to 80% of the health he lost. REMINDER: Tahm's E at max rank was nerfed from 100% to 65% and it was a really healthy move for the game in general.

Fear the Kayn8/10/2019, 6:37:23 PM2 votes

You people don't understand that if they remove his gold generation Pyke players will literally just start playing AD tops in the bot lane as support. I'm not saying don't nerf him, but nerf him only slightly. His winrate is not exactly amazing, and an overnerf would put him into quite a bad spot (especially with AP supports being also able to one shot you).

reprot8/11/2019, 7:00:27 PM2 votes

I've played maybe 2000 games this season in every elo from bronze to plat and i really don't mind pyke. He is very squishy and vulnerable unless built tank. Which is something i've read is a thing on this forum but i've never really seen ingame. Sometimes he pops off, sometimes he don't just like other champs. I can understand the concerns around his kit but for me personally it's never been a problem

lIllI1lIllIII1II8/11/2019, 3:47:08 AM2 votes

showing an ARAM where you start 3 levels ahead and can't recall to heal is OP

SgtAwesomeness8/12/2019, 4:03:37 AM1 votes

Just want to let you know i made a reddit post using your image, I credited you and thought it deserved a repost on reddit

Creamy Eevee8/10/2019, 5:40:37 PM1 votes

right on febos bring back justice to our girl janna

Raiyza8/10/2019, 7:48:09 PM1 votes

I totally agree. Get rid of the gold distribution in his ult and turn him into a true assassin. Also nerf the hell out of his health regen.

Sageace8/11/2019, 2:43:16 AM1 votes

For an assassin with an ultimate reset, he's VERY MOBILE for it, compared to someone like Darius, who actually HAS to earn his resets due to how slow he is. Pyke should not get a reset at all honestly, it's fucking bonkers.

voidscaler8/11/2019, 1:18:40 PM1 votes

Assassin support is fine in concept The problem with pyke is he's faaaar more the an "assassin support" He's one of the tankiest in lane has huge utility (more then most tanks) huge mobility AND massive gold generation They tried to shoehorn him as a support so hard they completely overloaded his kit Compare his utility to any other assassin, you get lb with a conditional snare and ahri with a charm and that's about it (and I'm not sure ahri even counts as an assassin) while pyke has both a thresh style hook and a multi target stun Barring his ult pykes entire kit is that of a "utility tank" being most similar to a thresh or Ali in terms of utility (and 100 times tankier then any other assassin) and capabilities, but they wanted him to be an assassin so his ult is insanely overloaded as an assassin tool

Imo he needs somthing removed, the execute true damage on the ult, the stun, the health regen or the innate defence (he has really high Mr and armour for an "assassin") Personally I think he should Lose the stun and regen, and of course the gold generation needs braught back down If he's an assassin, give him an assassin kit, not a tank kit, if he's a utility tank (which atm he sort of is) remove the execute and gold generation

The Dreamwalker8/11/2019, 5:38:37 PM1 votes

Just to help with image issue, you upload it via imgur then you hover over the picture and copy the link from there & paste it into the post. You do not copy the url.