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Any place for ADC mains in S10?

Jamyn·10/30/2019, 5:20:50 PM·4 votes·5,630 views

Please correct me if I'm wrong about anything here. First of all let me say the changes to the map and elemental dragons sounds awesome and I'm looking forward to it! My concern is, as an ADC main, I've noticed that top and mid are going to be receiving more EXP, while EXP in shared lanes such as bot are going to be reduced, as well as jungle EXP. On top of this, the CS poaching requires you to share minion waves with your support or jungler, or else the minions gold values decrease over time. This is an issue for ADCs, as one of the main goals is simply to hard farm for late game where you become more useful. An ADCs main build items are also generally vastly more expensive than that of most other roles, as well, support will now be getting their support item upgraded automatically and for free (saving even more gold) which is a really neat idea, but its even more gold towards the support.

It feels like every role is getting buffed in some way or another while ADC isnt receiving anything but nerfs, in a game wherein low elo (im in gold) ADC is already a struggling role. If you fall behind, it is very difficult to catch up and you are much less useful compared to say a mage who is behind as they still have CC abilities to contribute to the team (say ahri charm). In a lot of cases, even tanks or other classes can do as much if not more damage than ADCs while being inherently tankier, such as AP malphite or Darius.

My concern here is mostly just that a couple of seasons ago ADCs were so weak they were basically fallen off the meta, and I am concerned if it will happen again, forcing botlaners to choose AP mages, assassins, bruisers, or tanks simply because they are stronger choices.

16 Comments

OtterlyLost10/30/2019, 6:27:29 PM5 votes

I fully believe that no, there isnt really a place for ADCs anymore. They have pretty systematically nerfed directly and indirectly the role for seasons now. They directly nerfed them last season, effectively destroying them. And they have indirectly nerfed it over and over again by making it the weakest lane in general. And by lane, I mean the actual physical lane is the weakest. It has just as many gank points as top. It's just as long as top. It's just as punishing to die or back at a bad time as top. But this is all with the addition of a tower that is weaker than all other towers for the first five minutes of the game. This is with the addition of being expected to help ward dragon, of needing to not be pushed in at a bad time, of need to not die at a bad time or you might lose dragon. This is also with the addition of the most ganked lane in the game is literally bot lane. Top laners like to whine about getting ganked in the first 2 minutes; it's literally nothing compared to botlane being permanently by mid and jungle until the end of lane phase.

They need to give supports better access to wards. In general, they need to buff the fuck out of vision.

musixxal10/30/2019, 11:56:45 PM4 votes

um i don't know how to tell you this. those exp changes literally cement a place on the map for adc's in the duo lane. why is that? because adc's don't need experience, they scale on gold not on levels, crit can only be paid for while abilities scale on levels yadayada gave a whole rundown during the nubrac saga. you won't be getting the mage supports as often unless they actually provide real utility like karma or lux, you won't have to deal with the mage carries because "herp it's way easier to land skill shots on adc's," and you most certainly won't have to worry about other weird shit that requires levels to scale going there like gangplank, he's definitely not going there cause he won't hit lvl 13 ever.

these changes...if you know how the game works, are for the meta, and they cement the meta while putting more emphasis on solo lanes to carry the mid game. junglers will complain but whatever other options were discussed and shot down by community vote so what else are rito left to do to make the jungle healthy lol. bottom lane complaining though...unfounded, ya'll gotta learn some league.

KABLUMP10/30/2019, 5:28:59 PM3 votes

sorry that you might not get a class monopoly of a position when your class consists of 20 champions, of which only 5 at max are every viable, and a solid third have been leaking out of your lane and into top/mid/jungle unhealthily for a long time. Since it is basically obligatory to run amarksmen as the bot laner, and they are often in style, I don't see why every marksmen gets to magically own bot lane instead of other tank shredders or hyper carries. You only maintain your dominance due to logistics.

Fact is, mages, bruisers, assassins, and tanks are almost always locked into their respective lanes, and have to share those lanes with the other classes locked to their lanes. Problem with this? tanks and bruisers are always stuck between who hard counters who, mages and assassins face the same shit, and then adcs just get to lock in one of their FotM 1 of 5 viable champs that usually are just vessels for the OP adc build and then go down to bot lane.

Is cait banned? Just go tristana, same shit after 15 minutes anyways Is Vayne banned? Well here's kaisa! Ezreal? Have a lucian!

The thigh guy10/30/2019, 11:04:23 PM3 votes

Pretty sure adc is going to suck ass in s10. Mid laners and top laners are going to be the only roles that matter just like s7-9

KABLUMP10/31/2019, 1:45:06 AM3 votes

by the way the changes to lethality items will benefit some adcs and the changes to energizer build are amazing opening up a whole new crit+ad item

PTA and Lethal tempo are untouched, fleet is effectively buffed, More tanks will appear due to conq rework so 90% of enemy teams will have tank top laners instead of fighters/bruisers.

im also fairly certain that enchanter supports are getting a new item and it's clear that riot are working on sej and kalista.. why is this important? Because adcs are effectively the best tank shredders in the game and the adcs that do that best usually want either mage or enchanter supports and tank frontlines so assassins become literally your only danger

s10 adcs are going to be plenty fine

vgamedude10/31/2019, 2:22:34 AM2 votes

ADC has been this games focus for 10 years now. There will literally always be a place for them. Why post this ?