What's wrong with dynamic queue?

LazerSquirrel·Apr 14, 2016·3 votes·616 views

I, like many others, only play solo queue. The difference between me and the rest is that I don't see a difference in matchmaking whatsoever. All my matches from previous seasons feel the exact same as this season. Dynamic queue is exactly like the normal queue from previous seasons: queue up with up to 4 friends. Was anyone complaining about matchmaking for normal queues? No. The talk about getting screwed with the worse pre-made is lame. Isn't that what solo queue is? Whoever gets the better solo players wins? The one problem with dynamic queue is that people FEEL as if they are getting cheated. They think that they are getting screwed over just because they aren't using the capabilities of dynamic queue. Riot isn't forcing us to band together with friends at all; soloing is still an option. I encourage others to stop hating on dynamic queue and enjoy it for what it is.

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DehitayApr 14, 20164 votes

You almost listed the problem yourself. In old solo queue, whoever had the best player had the highest chance of winning. And assuming you tried your best, your chance of being the best player was greater than 1 out of 10. Meaning you could highly affect the flow of the game. However, if you queue up solo, your chance of being the best pre-made is 0%. And the best pre-made is what determines the match the vast majority of the time.

Likewise on the other end, the worst player in solo queue also was the biggest likelihood that a team would lose. And by simply doing everything in your power to not be the worst player, you could make the chances of the enemy having that player 5 out of 9, while your team having it would only be 4 out of 9. In dynamic queue, it's the team with the worst pre-made that has the highest chance of losing, and if you queue up solo, you have 0 say in that

Basically, the old solo queue system allowed you to have a much higher influence in the outcome of the game meaning you could increase your chance of winning well past 50%. Dynamic queue is determined by the pre-mades a vast majority of the time, so as a solo queue player, your chances of winning are far closer to 50% than with the old system.

LazerSquirrelApr 14, 20161 votes

This might be true, but how often are you actually solo queue with a 3 man or 4 man queue? And even if you did end up with a 3-4 man premade, is it that bad? Are the premades REALLY that imbalanced to a point where one team outright wins? Even in the small occasion where I do end up with a premade, it is still a close match.

DehitayApr 14, 20161 votes

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This might be true, but how often are you actually solo queue with a 3 man or 4 man queue? And even if you did end up with a 3-4 man premade, is it that bad? Are the premades REALLY that imbalanced to a point where one team outright wins? Even in the small occasion where I do end up with a premade, it is still a close match.

You might not realize it, but you're actually with premades for the majority of your matches. Solo players are primarily used as fill players for pre-mades by the system. Allowing a case where 10 solo players get into one match being anything but the last case scenario would significantly slow down queue times.

If you've been paying attention, you should notice a significant drop in your win rate in solo ranked games when compared to the old system. It's definitely been obvious for me. I think I was winning 5 games for every 4 losses in season 5. This season is definitely far closer to 50/50 for my solo games.

LazerSquirrelApr 15, 20161 votes

Interesting.

What rank are you? I'm gold one and have been fairing pretty well as a solo player since season 6. The dynamic queue problem might only be experienced at higher ranks. If you are diamond to challenger, I could definitely see the system being exploited.

DehitayApr 15, 20161 votes

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Interesting.

What rank are you? I'm gold one and have been fairing pretty well as a solo player since season 6. The dynamic queue problem might only be experienced at higher ranks. If you are diamond to challenger, I could definitely see the system being exploited.

I'm gold 4, but now that you mention it, I'm quoting problems from back before I started taking advantage of pre-mades and I was silver back then. I went back and forth between silver 3 and silver 2 about 6 times before getting pissed off with the solo player experience. Then I just wised up and started adding everyone I saw that carried hard in the games I was in whether they were friend or foe in the game, and ask them to play with me later. It's possible now that I'm a higher rank, the impact of pre-mades lessened, but logically, I don't see how.