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Riot should let Camille be able to jungle

NARootsono·5/24/2017, 11:48:40 PM·3 votes·648 views

Now none of her ability actually benefit from fighting with monsters, and it's not like Janna cannot jungle, that yet all of her spells can be used against jungle monsters and have the same effect, it's not like something like her q does not knock up monsters or w does not do dmg to them, it's simply that she cannot jungle anyway. But for Camille, she absolutely has the potential to be a jungle, at least as an alternative for those who mains her, like we can see Riven main sometimes play Riven as jungle when top's taken. But what makes it not the case on Camille now is that Riot is artificially limiting her role as a top laner, completely made it impossible to jungle, by doing something like w's heal can't trigger from monsters, passive doesn't trigger from monsters, E attack speed does not trigger from hitting monsters, what is left is Q true dmg, because w deals basically no dmg at all against monsters, and in reality her Q true dmg even deals less damage since many of the jungle monsters have negative armor.

And it's so extream in this case, and I think what riot should do is simply to be fair, I'm not saying to make all her abilities work on jungle monsters, because for instance, Fiora doesn't have her passive work against jungle monsters either, there is a limitation, but at least restore some of the abilities that she deserves? she now doesn't benefit from any of her ability when jungling at all, she's just like a super minion when fighting with jungle monsters, nothing works but basic attack. What riot did to Camille is like, for instance, that they want to limit lee sin's role only as a top laner, so they make his Q not doing damage to monsters, passive does not work on monsters, E does not do dmg to monsters, but what's the point for that? This is just ridiculous. It's not a big deal in this case, yes, because everyone takes the fact that she goes top for granted, and no one will really protest for that, but we know it has no difference as the example above, which Riot does not dare to do under players' pressure, it's just not something Riot shouldn't do, it's not even a part of the balancing or champion setting anymore, it's 100% limiting a certain playstyle which has no sign to be unhealthy, the only reason is like "I don't like it".

3 Comments

Tormentula5/24/2017, 11:56:36 PM1 votes

As much as I want camille to be a jungler again because it was fun.

By no means should riot cater to trying to keep the role viable on her and should focus on her laning. I want them to fix lane camille before they move on to something like making a secondary role for her. (by fix, I mean make laning as her feel less shit nowadays)

As for the riven jungle comparison, riven jungle is shit and a one trick thing. Just because it can work in a pro's hands, doesn't mean riot should allow it to exist if they have to make a balancing decision which may kill riven jungle.

FYI, camille jungle is still "playable", she just lacks the same survivability she used to have but her early ganks with E are strong. It isn't viable though, never really was. Just like riv jg, one trick camille mains do still play jg camille. The results are the same as jg riven, shit if you're not a main.

Thundaboss5/25/2017, 12:41:04 AM1 votes

i never really likedcamille jungle but after all this autofill crap i get jungle alot and have to play the role and it grew on me now its just complete crap and people assume youll feed when you attemp it, a simple fix i can imagine is for it to work on epic monsters so that its just for the jungle creeps and not minions itself if riot wants to unfuck my main. xayah is like held up on a pedestal they even got their own cinematic and they are still OP but camille? she was good for like 1 month then nerfed beyond repair like riot likes to do.

Eternal Torment5/25/2017, 12:50:29 AM1 votes

A jungle mobs do have armor, take a look at kruggs and gromp

B Camille was never really intended to jungle at all. she suffers from wukong-syndrome. a toplane-only champion going into the jungle because ONE single clear spell and ONE good mobility Skill are present. Wukong can jungle, and even has recommended items for it, but have you ever seen a successful wukong making fast clears AND gank? Camille is at the very same place. she either clears or snowballs, but she can't do both, she already couldn't even with her E and W givin the respective benefits from hitting Monsters.