Explain this

Raver Dimension·Oct 14, 2016·39 votes·2,376 views

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You can't explain this, glitch in the system

28 Comments

Best Kog NAOct 14, 201633 votes

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SpeedphoenixOct 15, 20161 votes

love your name my friend especially since you don't turn me into a bad kog since i'm on euw

Mysticman89Oct 15, 201619 votes

26/7 W/L is probably a pretty big factor there.

MMR jumps around like crazy when you have relatively few games, and it can overshoot your 'true' mmr by a lot if you go on big win streaks.

Combine that with normals mmr being separate from ranked (and the more people focus on ranked the more they tend to neglect normals, resulting in low-ish normals mmr), and throw in dash of really long queue time, and that sort of match pops out.

Gene HikazeOct 15, 20162 votes

This, all of this. This is how matchmaking deals with people who have high win ratios (the system pretty much tags you as a smerf as well btw) and both can and will put you against premade groups to deal with your inflated MMR. Welcome to being basically "too good" for your lack of rank.

Ruin LanceOct 14, 20168 votes

definitely the most unbalanced matchmaking i've seen~~ in a while~~

DealthOct 14, 20168 votes

Their ranking has absoultely 100% nothing to do with matchmaking in normals.

rtbf76109271Oct 15, 20162 votes

I mean it uses a separate mmr, but one has to assume that diamond - masters players normal mode mmr is at least close to their ranked. How could they possibly be so bad in normals that they are getting a 50% win rate against people who are sub lv30

DealthOct 15, 20164 votes

No - why would you assume this? They probably are too busy playing ranked to ever play normals. My normals mmr is somewhere in bronze despite my ranked mmr being in plat

also keep in mind there are a LOT of smurfs (the OP is probably a smurf) which have much higher mmr than the average sub-30 player. Someone can be level 20 and have the mmr of a diamond player.

SilmarilOct 15, 20161 votes

Not at all. Usually people that high up stopped playing normals right as they hit level 30 and come back extremely infrequently, so their mmr in normals is pretty much still at the level it was when they hit level 30.

You can't increase your mmr without actually playing the mode after all.

WoonStruckOct 15, 20161 votes

A player at a Gold (ranked) MMR in normals is around top 10%.

A player at a Gold (ranked) MMR in ranked is around top 25%.

Another factor is that most players that are high MMR do not play normals enough to get their MMR anywhere close to their ranked MMR, and very often they do not take normals seriously. That changes more than you think.

Finally, the system cannot accurately account for what level a player's account is. It has to use almost solely MMR because there aren't nearly enough players with sub-30 accounts queuing at any given time.

warpenguin555Oct 14, 20166 votes

wow. Riot fix this shit already

SchàdenfreudeOct 14, 20165 votes

wtf...

EedatOct 14, 20165 votes

When that many high ELO players queue together in a normal, matchmaking has no choice because there isnt an equivalent to match them against.

What rank is your main btw?

SwiftKitten88Oct 14, 20163 votes

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When that many high ELO players queue together in a normal, matchmaking has no choice because there isnt an equivalent to match them against.

What rank is your main btw?

i honestly think... that IS why.. 2 challengers and 2 diamonds?

there is zero way to have an even match vs that... still im sure the game could have at least picked a team full of plats and dimaond and make a gold to face them

putting lvl 30's is dumb..

ZerenzaOct 15, 20161 votes

It probably ignored the lvl30s since their unranked so they may not even be recognized by the system, the only ranked person they had was a diamond 5 so that might be related in some way.

As an unranked player myself, i can que with anyone, just a few weeks ago i was invited by some golds to queue with them(they fed and we lost lol) and the enemy team had a diamond with the rest being golds. The system literally ignores you if your unranked.

Raver DimensionOct 15, 20161 votes

silver 2.... my friend up there just got into diamond 5 and cant go any further

KippaChaosOct 15, 20163 votes

Hope they applied lube before the anal beating lmao

MagikarpIsBossOct 15, 20162 votes

I understand that this is pretty retarded to have to play with, but Normals use a different mmr than Ranked. Since they are that high elo, it is very unlikely that they even play normals that much and mainly play ranked. Along with my last statement, I doubt that any high elo players were queuing for normals at that time, so you probably got matched with whatever they could find for them.

Raver DimensionOct 15, 20162 votes

I forgot to mention, they are full premade, while we have only 2 players premade... explain that

OwynOct 15, 20161 votes

well, I guess, this was a challenge to the enemy team [slayer-jinx-wink]

MunchCrunchLunchOct 15, 20161 votes

ohq? that guy is a fucking lcs player?

AirKingNeoOct 15, 20161 votes

Diamonds premaded with gold Elo, somehow the system messed up and instead of facing them with at least a Plat team, they mix them vs >30s. Also the diamond rank means nothing due to how normals MMR works.

llamasxOct 15, 20161 votes

Your win/loss ratio + the fact someone on your team was premade with the diamond probably boned the system. Given that it took 10 minutes to get a game, the system probably allowed for wider and wider skill gaps because it doesn't want you to wait for 30 minutes for a game.

I wouldn't be surprised if more people on your team also had very high win/loss ratios increasing your team's competitiveness so to speak.