I used to use Luden's as a late mid game item on LB, because the passive dealt a fair amount of damage to nearby enemies when I focus on one and the 120 AP and movement speed was pretty nice. But then lately, after the nurf (where its passive only did 10% of your AP rather than 20) I've heard a lot of people telling me that Luden's sucked and wasn't as worth it. Should I still consider it a good item on LB or is it still usuable?
i always rush 
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it is so OP, just 1 shotted a 10 HP annie.
Luden's is still good for sure. It's not AS crazy but still fine. Not sure what it'll be like after the AP item changes however.
I think it's alright, I buy it early if I'm really far ahead, or 5th or 6th item if I'm not.. depending on who I'm playing of course.
her core build is 
is her three core items. dose 3 items give her the highest 3 items power spike.
ludens runs give her he biggest one item power spike.
what you buy is after the three core items is sutional
i think zhonya abyssal is the best. but ludens and crystal scepter works to. i like lichbane last item.
yes, the MS is really underrated
If whoever you're playing would have rushed ludens before the nerf, you should still be rushing it.
If whoever you're playing would normally get it as a 3rd/4th/5th item then you can consider delaying it a bit more.
For Leblanc it's okay but I wouldn't get it until after Morellos/Deathcap/Void staff/sorc boots and maybe a zhonya's if you need it.
Yes it depends who you play as first off its more geared towards someone who pokes tbh like teemo shrooms so on and so fourth . people get it on lb or malz for what ever reason
Usually people rush ludens/mana items then rabbadons and zhonyas but it changed to ludens ludens ludens ludens, i hope it changes back.
It is still usable but it is less of a "must buy" item.
