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Coming from a Diamond Syndra main - Fix her E and her R please!

Mitsu·9/24/2014, 12:02:23 AM·12 votes·1,589 views

E: Please fix her QE hitbox. It's as bad as the old Nidalee spears, but Syndra actually stuns and can cripple an entire team after she ults and E's. Picking people off is way too easy for the low risk she is in, and stunning targets in front of your face diving you is not really a problem either as they simply need to be anywhere around the ball to be stunned. The travel time on that QE is too low to let it have such a big hitbox

R: Creating balls for more damage is not really necessary as her minimum damage on her ult is crazy already. Just a simple DFG->Ult with one ball can cripple an ADC (taking your 2 level lead as a solo laner in consideration), putting them to <30%, which I wouldn't agree with as it provides little counterplay. Decrease her base damage and increase the damage per ball to make her more interesting than just a QE->DFG->R machine - because that's literally all she needs at the moment to stun and create a 4v5.

And no, I am neither a random Syndra hater nor did I get stomped by her recently. She has been my favorite champion (with Lissandra) way before she was popular in LCS. She just feels too powerful with her stun as it does not put her in any risk, and sometimes I just shake my head at the damage DFG R provides. Just fix her to be more challenging please, right now she could function fine without her W because the rest of her abilities is already strong enough.

I know DFG is a huge problem as well, but you guys said you were reworking it in the future so I am not even going into that.

Mitsu

16 Comments

ChickenWrap9/24/2014, 12:41:15 AM3 votes

Yes I agree. Syndra is very broken.

Nerf her to the ground, and then nerf Orianna to the ground as well.

Splitpushing9/24/2014, 3:31:03 AM2 votes

Nerf Syndra and every other cancerous "utility" mage to the ground.

Shinji10TH9/24/2014, 12:38:37 AM2 votes

I can understand your complaint about E being way unhealthy for an easily landed CC, and the innate just makes it worse (Let's give her CC more range, it's funny). But the R is intended to pop squishy enemies, so if you find it too powerful, don't take item 3128 , problem solved, because you are aware that you won't one-shot a tanky target with Syndra unless you do a full combo + another Q or W. As for , they should cap the percentage damage depending on the original damage output of the champion, because the constant 20% is too much.

Nausicäa 10/13/2014, 3:15:08 PM1 votes

Stopped reading when i saw that you build DFG. Its easy to get picks when you abuse an overpowered no skill item that lets you 1 shot people.

Also her ult is a single target spell. There are many ults in this game like Ziggs or Lux ult that easily deal 1000+ damage in an AOE. Why shouldnt Syndra's ult do more damage than those?

Nebuul9/24/2014, 4:36:25 PM1 votes

I main Syndra and Viktor. Now I'm only silver, and this is my first season of LoL, but I cannot even imagine how painful this champion would be if she did not have her E. A quote from Monty Python and the Holy Grail comes to mind:

What are you gonna do? Bleed on me?

Even now, there is zero, except for flash, that Syndra can do against a gank that comes from more than 1 direction. She doesn't have high move speed, and her stun is a very short duration. Heck, there are some champions that can catch and kill Syndra even if she lands alternating W's and E's against them as they close on her. To me, that shows that the skill is balanced -- it helps her out but is by no means a "get-out-of-jail-free card."

As for her R, your solution would make it even stronger. I almost never fire off an ult with fewer than 5 balls. W->Q->E->Q->R is like the standard attack during laning phase. If someone is actually dying to a 3- or 4-ball ultimate, then the issue is that they are going glass cannon, not that Syndra's ult is too strong. Throw in some MR runes, or a single resist item -- anything -- and her ult will not be so devastating.

Just my $0.02 worth of input.

bunsenhoneydew779/24/2014, 5:54:36 PM1 votes

I disagree. Like Veigar, Syndra can do a ton of single target damage but is left pretty vulnerable and useless once her spells are cast. You have to be pretty close to the carry to use your ultimate and if you move too close during a teamfight you are usually trading your life for somebody else's. You could argue everything you said could be used against veigar as well.

JustMyBassCannon9/24/2014, 6:09:15 PM1 votes

A base of 540+60% AP at maximum rank is less than Vel'Koz's ultimate (to only one target). That's Syndra's ultimate with no spheres. At one sphere, it's up to 720+80%.

Even if you have the maximum of 7 spheres, it deals 1260+140%, which only barely puts her ultimate ahead of Brand's 1050+150% (and, again, still only affecting one target).

I think Syndra's ultimate is in line with other mages' damage potentials.