AP Bruiser Item

Selman II·1/11/2016, 9:52:24 PM·10 votes·1,202 views

AD bruisers have two really strong items in the form of Black Cleaver and Sterak's Gage, as well as Titanic Hydra. Could it be possible to give AP bruisers a similar item for example... Wibwob's Wibble +500 Health +50 AP +10% CDR e.g. Grants WIBWOB'S FURY upon taking 400 - 1800 (based on level) damage within 5 seconds (45 second cooldown). UNIQUE – WIBWOB'S FURY: Grants increased size, +10% AP and a rapidly decaying shield based of 30% maximum health for 8 seconds. Thoughts?

Edit: I mean a tanky AP item that gives CDR since there arent any items that give those stats

32 Comments

MunchCrunchLunch1/11/2016, 10:45:58 PM7 votes

too similar to sterak gage

PDE5 Inhibitors1/12/2016, 4:54:17 PM4 votes

I've always considered item 3027 item 3116 and item 3151 to be AP bruiser items? Even a item 3157 or item 3001

If what you're asking for is a Sterak's Gage equivalent, then say that. Not AP bruiser item. It's just worded weird for what you actually want. Make the title, "I wish there was an AP equivalent to Sterak's Gage"

ViashinoWizard1/12/2016, 7:31:21 AM3 votes

The problem with making an AP bruiser item is that Vladimir will get it nerfed.

Nekusen1/12/2016, 3:00:13 AM2 votes

I support the idea of a new CDR item for Mages, but i'd like it to be built from these, so they'll have more than 1 path

item 3191 + item 3136

Some ideas:

item 1058 + item 3191 + item 1033 + Gold

100 AP 15 MR 15 Armor 10% CDR Unique Passive: After dealing spell damage gain 20 Armor and 20 MR for 3 seconds.

item 1026 + item 3028 + Gold

80 AP Unique Active [Toggle-able] : Upon casting a spell, gain 10% (15% ?) cooldown reduction, increase your spells mana cost by 7% and gain 15 ability power for 4 seconds, ability power can be stacked up to 3 (or 4?) times, and mana cost stacks up to 4 times.

( 's passive in "reverted" when the item is combined, making it increase mana costs, making it a transitional item for mid-lategame, unless you choose to combine it early for burst of ap at the cost of sustain)

item 1058 + item 3114 + Gold 100 AP 10% CDR Unique Passive: Whenever you deal spell damage gain mana equal to 2% of the damage dealt.

item 3136 + item 3145 + item 1052 + Gold

100 AP 10% CDR 15 Magic Penetration. Unique Passive: Whenever your health reaches critical levels, gain a shield that absorbs 200 damage for 5 seconds, 45sec cooldown. Unique Passive Lich: After casting a spell, you next damaging spell within 4 seconds heals you over 3 seconds for 30% of the damage it deals, 8 seconds cooldown.

Kaioko1/12/2016, 4:30:22 PM2 votes

The issue is that creating items that grant CDR, AP and health will be quickly abused and become the item to build for every magic dealer out there. You cannot have those 3 on one item because unlike their AD counterparts, APs benefit a lot more from CDR. Maybe they could use a new item but it won't be the one you mentioned above.

xSleepy1/12/2016, 5:45:01 AM2 votes

Wibwob's Wibble WIBWOB'S FURY

[zombie-brand-clap]

anyway, i feel like this would be another thing for jax to abuse. can you imagine a jax with guinsoo's, sterak's AND wibwob's? sheer madness

Fat Bastard GOD1/12/2016, 4:52:37 PM1 votes

I've always wanted an AP bruiser item for someone like Ryze, Mordekaiser, Zac, etc. I like the idea of an AP Sterak's Gage-ish item. Too bad Morde is dead and Ryze's winrate is pathetic. This item would FANTASTIC on mana less AP bruisers too COUGH Vlad COUGH

ShadowDragonAxe1/11/2016, 11:46:46 PM1 votes

i really want an item with Wibwob's

Black Pöwer1/11/2016, 11:24:37 PM1 votes

I build steraks on AP bruisers regardless, the item is too much of a winwin to pass up on :')

Sire Hippington1/12/2016, 12:21:31 AM1 votes

mostly they need item 3170 on summoner's rift...

Bârd1/12/2016, 5:40:30 AM1 votes

That is possibly the best name for any item.

Silents4291/12/2016, 9:37:10 AM1 votes

Because there is a whole lot of AP champions that crave HP that we don't want getting items like this.

We also don't want a lot of items to combine AP and HP because then we get mages who should be squishy acting as tanks.