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Proposed Katarina Rebalance

DarkSaiint·10/23/2015, 2:19:45 AM·8 votes·1,785 views

Here is my idea to rebalance Katarina. She suffers similar symptoms that old fiora had - either not get fed in lane and be absolute crap, or get fed and be a monster that destroys everything. In this post, I'll try to rebalance katarina - giving her tools to make comeback plays while being less "FUCK YOU BITCH" when fed. Additionally, I want to turn Katarina into a champion that has powerful AP burst and a strong sustained AD damage. You can either build her AP to melt the enemy instantly, AD to sustain your damage across long fights, or hybrid for a powerful mix of both. Additional effects highlighed in bold.

http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/5.19.1/img/passive/Katarina_Passive.png Passive Violent Drive When Katarina deals (150 + 30 x champion level) she acquires a violent drive, gaining (30, 50, 70 AD) and (10, 30, 50 AP) for 5 seconds. Additionally, Katarina's sinister steel and Shunpo are reduced to 1.5 seconds and gain bonus damage equal to 20% of Katarina's AD. I made this passive because I wanted to give Katarina a strong, reliable reset mechanic that would make her less facerolly and more sustained damage

http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/5.19.1/img/spell/KatarinaQ.png Q Bouncing Blade CD (10 / 9.5 / 9 / 8.5 / 8) Throws a dagger dealing 60/85/110/135/160 (+45% Ability Power) magic damage. The dagger bounces to the 4 closest enemies dealing 10% less damage with each bounce.Enemies hit are marked for 10 seconds. Katarina's basic attacks or spells will activate the mark dealing 10/20/30/40/50 (+15% Ability Power) (+30% Attack Damage) additional physical damage. Relatively unchanged, but made her Q proc do more physical damage to promote her sustained AD damage in fights. THE Q PROC IS NOT CONSUMED WHENEVER SHE ACTIVATES IT, BUT INSTEAD IT LASTS 10 SECONDS

http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/5.19.1/img/spell/KatarinaW.png W Sinister Steel CD (11/10/9/8/7) Katarina whirls her daggers around her, dealing magic damage to all enemies in the area. If she hits an enemy Champion, Katarina gains a burst of speed for a short duration. Whirls daggers in a circle dealing 40/75/110/145/180 (+60% bonus Attack Damage) (+25% Ability Power) magic damage. If she hits an enemy Champion, Katarina gains 15/20/25/30/35% movement speed for 1.5 seconds and 5/10/15/20/25 bonus armor/MR for 1.5 seconds. Buffed significantly. While the CD was increased by alot, she gains a crapton of stickiness and survivability. With her passive, she can run around fights and keep a constant damage to the enemy

http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/5.19.1/img/spell/KatarinaE.png E Shunpo CD (12/10.5/9/7.5/6) range reduces from 700 to 350 Katarina instantly teleports to her target's location and takes reduced damage from enemies for a few seconds. If the target is an enemy, she deals damage. Teleports to a target's location. Deals 40/70/100/130/160 (+25% Attack Damage) physical damage if the target is an enemy. After using Shunpo, Katarina takes 15% reduced damage for 1.5 seconds. Increased the cooldown, made it unlock whenever she accesses via her passive instead. Made it deal physical damage based off of AD scaling to promote her sustained damage. I felt like I had to reduce her range on her E because I didnt want it to be too oppressive when she got resets.

http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/5.19.1/img/spell/KatarinaR.png R Death Lotus CD (90/60/45) Katarina becomes a flurry of blades, throwing daggers with unrivaled speed at up to three nearby Champions. Daggers deal magic damage and reduce incoming healing on targets hit. Becomes a flurry of blades, throwing daggers at the closest 3 enemy Champions dealing 350/550/750 (+300% Attack Damage) (+100% Ability Power) magic damage over 2.5 seconds. Daggers apply Grievous Wounds, reducing incoming healing by 50% for 3 seconds. Does less damage to compensate for her buffs on other abilities

REMEMBER! I DONT WORK FOR RITO! THESE NUMBERS ARE NOT FINAL, JUST ESTIMATES. Before Katarina could just ult into a teamfight and either destroy the entire team just by pressing R or instantly get CCed and die. With this rework, I'm trying to make Katarina less reliant on her ultimate (burst) and more reliant on her AD sustained damage as the fight progresses, while still being a strong initial burst champion. Thatis, if Katarina gets interrupted during her ult, she has ways to come back via her passive and still win fights. The general strategy is to go in with your ultimate and deal quite a bit of MAGIC damage while also proccing your passive. Whenever your ultimate ends, you can finish off the enemy team by very quickly dashing around and sticking to your targets, dealing PHYSICAL damage.

26 Comments

city of refuge10/23/2015, 2:28:18 AM5 votes

you pretty much just made a zed and leblanc hybrid

JustMyBassCannon10/23/2015, 2:46:28 AM3 votes

I know people like to say the numbers aren't final, but I still want to point out that this...

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http://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/5.19.1/img/spell/KatarinaE.png E Shunpo CD (12/10.5/9/7.5/6) range reduces from 700 to 350

...is making the ability worthless.

350 range is shorter than any ranged champion's attack range, and that's before accounting for the fact that spells are usually calculated from the center of a hitbox while attack range is calculated at the edge, making attack range technically longer than spell range.

No, I don't care that you made Katarina's damage output higher, she literally cannot engage a fight if Shunpo's jump travels less distance than Fizz or Yasuo do in one dash and has a 6+ second base cooldown.

That's my one criticism for the kit design. The rest sounds pretty cool, if a bit insane for damage output.

Shroom Junkie10/23/2015, 2:30:34 AM1 votes

When you say AD, you mean bonus AD right? At least, that's what it used to be.

Either way I think its a bit sketchy, Seems like the numbers are low but promoting AD. Katarina was never AD, she was an AP assassin team fighter thingy that's feast or famine, with random AD ratios that rarely did anyone use(hence why she's unbalanced). And if she was AD, it would make her carry potential just that much bigger because now she has even more sustained damage and can take towers a lot faster.

Obviously you said that the numbers aren't final, but these are just my opinions and me saying I think they should be changed around a bit and put back into the AP type, so.

MisterHealYoGirl10/23/2015, 2:38:11 AM1 votes

I love the concept, and League definitely needs more hybrids than just Corki Evelynn Ezreal Kayle Kennen KogMaw Shaco .

The only thing that I'm worried about is that now you have a hypermobile melee champion who does a lot damage without building damage, thanks to the passive (it's not additive, is it?). Basically, if she can do enough with her base damages to pass this threshold, she can use her Shunpo like a 1.5 second CD Diana ult. I'd probably build something like this.

item 3071 item 3091 item 3102 item 3022 item 3143 , plus boots depending on the enemy team. (item 3047 /item 3020 item 3111 )

I think this is a really cool idea, and I like the idea of this passive a lot more than her current 'penta or bust' reset, but it's scary to give someone that many offensive stats for free: just look at Darius.

city of refuge10/23/2015, 2:41:21 AM1 votes

The idea is good and should be developed on, perhaps making the bonus AD based on her armor at a 10% ratio so people don't just build her straight tank

Jbels10/23/2015, 2:46:33 AM1 votes

As somebody who loves Katarina, I give this two and a half thumbs up

DeynaTaggerung10/23/2015, 3:02:59 AM1 votes

I have no idea if this idea would be vaible/helpful or not. But it seems interesting so it's definitely worth making sure Riot sees it so they can think it through.

Earthlord Jazz10/23/2015, 3:22:16 AM1 votes

For the passive, is it based only on damage dealt to champions or to all enemies? (you don't specify) Also, does it only proc if you do that damage to one champion, or is all added up from all the damage dealt to enemy champions?

The Ecdysiast10/23/2015, 3:56:58 AM1 votes

I stopped reading after the first few lines.

A Katarina who isn't fed isn't crap, because her ultimate still deals 4500 damage once you finish a single item.

As Katarina it's very easy to go from 0-2 to 5-2 from just one teamfight. Especially so, since the enemies probably won't remember to focus you.

LadyRenly10/23/2015, 7:35:14 PM1 votes

Katarina doesn' need to stick. Her whole schtick is pure damage, nothing else.

SnugglePuggle9410/23/2015, 2:26:35 AM1 votes

I like it.

Stacona10/23/2015, 10:23:19 PM1 votes

Recommended for balancing, focus on her being ability power based and have her mage side - less AD as in little or removed completely, hybrids end up being too hard to balance for the game- and keep everything magic damage

city of refuge10/23/2015, 2:27:05 AM1 votes

so you want to make her from ult or nothing to ult and then some no matter what?