can someone please explain to me why kled is this op?

KS King Kench·Feb 3, 2018·3 votes·3,410 views

i have played four different games against kled recently, all of which i was playing shyv jg, every time i see him in game he is the one that carries the game.... and he is, as far as i have seen, the only person that can shut shyv down so hard she cant do anything for the rest of the game... his damage is SO high and he gets that stupid F-ing lizard back every 5 seconds. its stupid how much dmg he does..... some please honestly explain why he does this much.... in none of these games that i played was i able to go 1 on 1 with kled as shyv... even with her e's dmg boost and being in ult NOTHING helps... he reks EVERYTHING and i honestly want to know how to possibly counter that....the only time my team was able to kill him was when we 5v1 him... if his team was there we couldnt do anything... im so confused....

8 Comments

Dreadlocke101Feb 3, 20183 votes

Kled Kled is arguably one of the most fair champions in the game, rewarding constant risky all-in plays, and Riot even said he was one of their most balanced champions on released. If you're worried about his remount once dismounted, I can help you with that. I was a former Kled main. Nearly 200k with him now.

When Kled is about to dismount off Skaarl, do not use your hard cc on him. He will dismount and ignore it immediately. Once he's dismounted, pay attention to the bar below health. It's like Gnar's rage except it fills much faster if you play your cards right. For every minion last it, he will gain courage. Courage is also gained by autoing objectives, epic monsters (Dragon/Baron) and enemy champions. He also gains courage from hitting you with his Q (Pocket Pistol) while dismounted. Pay attention to his courage bar. Engaging on him when it is nearly full and he has his W or Q is guaranteed a remount and will turn the tides of the fight.

To beat Kled, stop letting him pick when to engage on you. His damage output comes from his W. If you stall, he'll be forced to use it on something else- even wards! Once is W is gone, engage on him. Bear in mind that while dismounted his auto attack range is actually (longer), so he'll be able to kite you. Good luck in your future games.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

Curry InSahneSep 13, 20191 votes

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Kled is arguably one of the most fair champions in the game, rewarding constant risky all-in plays, and Riot even said he was one of their most balanced champions on released. If you're worried about his remount once dismounted, I can help you with that. I was a former Kled main. Nearly 200k with him now.

When Kled is about to dismount off Skaarl, do not use your hard cc on him. He will dismount and ignore it immediately. Once he's dismounted, pay attention to the bar below health. It's like Gnar's rage except it fills much faster if you play your cards right. For every minion last it, he will gain courage. Courage is also gained by autoing objectives, epic monsters (Dragon/Baron) and enemy champions. He also gains courage from hitting you with his Q (Pocket Pistol) while dismounted. Pay attention to his courage bar. Engaging on him when it is nearly full and he has his W or Q is guaranteed a remount and will turn the tides of the fight.

To beat Kled, stop letting him pick when to engage on you. His damage output comes from his W. If you stall, he'll be forced to use it on something else- even wards! Once is W is gone, engage on him. Bear in mind that while dismounted his auto attack range is actually (longer), so he'll be able to kite you. Good luck in your future games.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

bullshit

KS King KenchFeb 3, 20181 votes

see the thing i dont think is fair is actually how fast he gets his mount back.... it seems like as soon as he gets off of it he has it back again and he berely touched anything... and it has so much health that no matter how hard you work to kill him if he gets it back he gets a free kill he is imo a mix between a tank and assassin.... with extremes in both sides... he deals way more dmg than a juggernaut ought to and way tankier (because he gets scarl back every 5 secs) than he needs to be.

Dreadlocke101Feb 3, 20181 votes

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see the thing i dont think is fair is actually how fast he gets his mount back.... it seems like as soon as he gets off of it he has it back again and he berely touched anything... and it has so much health that no matter how hard you work to kill him if he gets it back he gets a free kill he is imo a mix between a tank and assassin.... with extremes in both sides... he deals way more dmg than a juggernaut ought to and way tankier (because he gets scarl back every 5 secs) than he needs to be.

Actually, it is a known mechanic within Kled that once he remounts and dismounts again, he is unable to gain courage for a period of time. If you let Kled snowball early, he will shove so hard into mid game that trying to duel him if he has Titanic Hydra is a death wish. Anyways, if you manage to die twice to him in lane, you shouldn't even be looking to trade with him. If he lands a bear trap, that's a bunch of health you're definitely going to lose.

Leaf on BushFeb 3, 20181 votes

He has a very good initiation and some outplay potential in lane to get him snowballing. So you are either losing because he snowballs out of control or because your team doesn't respect his engage....or both. I wouldn't call him OP though.

You gave him the first kill and realistically it is just a matter of time until Kled can steamroll a Teemo top. He got a head start thanks to you and from there it just went downhill. It didn't help that Teemo was building glasscannon and ended up just being bonus gold.

a sheepAug 10, 20181 votes

in this case. shyvanna is a bruiser. someone with very high health. and kled q,w,and r does max health damage so it make sense why he burst you down so hard. also he need 5 auto attacks and a q that hits all pellets to remount scaarl. so if you can try not to fight him when he is dismounted and wait for when you can burst him before he does all that(5 aa) and if you are facing a kled in lane just try not to die. take trades when his w is down because its a passive. and attemt to dodge his bear trap on a rope. if you die to him 2 to 3 time you might as well hug turret,no joke. just dont make him more fed than he already is and he cannot dominate the game with only 2 to 3 kills.

DeathBurstSep 13, 20191 votes

Actually, there is a 30 seconds CD between 2 remounts. He can dismount and remount in 5 seconds, yes, but only once. If he dismounts a second time, he won't be able to re-remount.

Treat it as a Tahm Kench gray health shield or an Ekko with R up: for all 3 of them, they basically have 2 health bars, and they will try to bait you into over committing. if you forget the second health bar. But respect it, and they won't be able to do much.